Re: Reviving UT Movement
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:59 pm
Madis, I never said that people said that I would create the entire community for myself. But due to the lack of opinions, green light from admin, etc, I came to this point.
Also, it seems that only ut-slv is willing to help, but all the other communities with no exception didn't give a damn, or didn't want to. Even if you, some of people in ut-slv and some of this forum join funds to create that center, there will be always problems in sustaining it. Even smaller communities have these problems, and some of them almost closed down (rosebum, even ut-slv if I am not mistaken, this forum had also some problems [but was mostly on expanding, not in mantaining afaik], etc).
Personally, I could only help giving ideas for the layout, somewhat tell people about it (like I did) and then help in the forum itself (once working of course). Regarding the coding, I know one of the best ones that might be willing to help (he already helped in this forum, and he's the only one keeping our clan forum as well, and it has plenty of activity), and I can call him if this goes forward, then it's up to you and him to accept.
Plus, I think Univeral Unreal would be even better than the News thing, since people enter in a server, see people "!go whateverserver" or "!go 2" and they would know more mods, gametypes, players, etc. I saw that system working like that, motivating more people entering in the servers in SLV, BT and KB servers, and it really works. It was that way I knew Wharthog for example, and is one of the most active servers ever (I don't know if it's since Universal Unreal or not), but it works.
Now, my main problem in all this was basically:
- Lack of people willing to help (while in ut-slv there was relative a lot of people willing to help, in the other forums it wasn't that good, if any good).
- People had chosen this domain/community to start to be that center, due to its activity, already central position and stability, so I contacted the only admin of all this ONLY TO KNOW if we could proceed with that (more people working in the code needed, more mods, and at least more 1 admin from whatever place), no reply whatsoever, just to say YES, NO or I WILL THINK ABOUT IT.
That's why I am basically pissed and intended to quit this huge project. Each one wants to keep his/her community as it is, with afraid of loosing it, or they don't have time, or aren't willing to, etc. The only 2 communities that said something about helping was ut-slv and this one so far.
I didn't informed BU or RB though, since in RB they would either flame it or come up with "RB is all that matters to us", and in BU I'm not even sure if I could post even this little information (they could think we would steal their UT members or something, but this is my assumption, so if anyone wants to inform them, go ahead).
So, with this stated, what do you want me to do then? It's all that I ask. Posting everything again and be even more specific? Do anything else? What should the rest do? Where will be the hosting for all this? I was waiting for that kind of discussion around here, I asked it, part of it was answered but it never moved, specially after what happenned when things should run.
That's all
Also, it seems that only ut-slv is willing to help, but all the other communities with no exception didn't give a damn, or didn't want to. Even if you, some of people in ut-slv and some of this forum join funds to create that center, there will be always problems in sustaining it. Even smaller communities have these problems, and some of them almost closed down (rosebum, even ut-slv if I am not mistaken, this forum had also some problems [but was mostly on expanding, not in mantaining afaik], etc).
Personally, I could only help giving ideas for the layout, somewhat tell people about it (like I did) and then help in the forum itself (once working of course). Regarding the coding, I know one of the best ones that might be willing to help (he already helped in this forum, and he's the only one keeping our clan forum as well, and it has plenty of activity), and I can call him if this goes forward, then it's up to you and him to accept.
Plus, I think Univeral Unreal would be even better than the News thing, since people enter in a server, see people "!go whateverserver" or "!go 2" and they would know more mods, gametypes, players, etc. I saw that system working like that, motivating more people entering in the servers in SLV, BT and KB servers, and it really works. It was that way I knew Wharthog for example, and is one of the most active servers ever (I don't know if it's since Universal Unreal or not), but it works.
Now, my main problem in all this was basically:
- Lack of people willing to help (while in ut-slv there was relative a lot of people willing to help, in the other forums it wasn't that good, if any good).
- People had chosen this domain/community to start to be that center, due to its activity, already central position and stability, so I contacted the only admin of all this ONLY TO KNOW if we could proceed with that (more people working in the code needed, more mods, and at least more 1 admin from whatever place), no reply whatsoever, just to say YES, NO or I WILL THINK ABOUT IT.
That's why I am basically pissed and intended to quit this huge project. Each one wants to keep his/her community as it is, with afraid of loosing it, or they don't have time, or aren't willing to, etc. The only 2 communities that said something about helping was ut-slv and this one so far.
I didn't informed BU or RB though, since in RB they would either flame it or come up with "RB is all that matters to us", and in BU I'm not even sure if I could post even this little information (they could think we would steal their UT members or something, but this is my assumption, so if anyone wants to inform them, go ahead).
So, with this stated, what do you want me to do then? It's all that I ask. Posting everything again and be even more specific? Do anything else? What should the rest do? Where will be the hosting for all this? I was waiting for that kind of discussion around here, I asked it, part of it was answered but it never moved, specially after what happenned when things should run.
That's all