What is this? (Monster Hunt)

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What is this? (Monster Hunt)

Post by Aldebaran » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:53 pm

In some maps you can find these objects. I know them as weapon extension in Unreal 1.
But in Monster Hunt with Nali Weapons 3 I can't collect these objects and they do not trigger any reaction when I touch them as far as I can see.

So for what are these?
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Re: What is this? (Monster Hunt)

Post by Old UT Veteran » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:32 pm

That's a Dispersion Pistol Power-up. It works only with the Dispersion Pistol (default weapon in Unreal).

https://liandri.beyondunreal.com/Disper ... ol_Powerup

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Re: What is this? (Monster Hunt)

Post by sektor2111 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:52 pm

Available in MH504, in some XC_MH when I'll get it done, and available for months in some of MH2 types which I did :mrgreen: .
Other stuff is Amplifier. Usually I have them even in DM which I play, an ASMD amplified is a real devastator. If you guys are playing only NW you will never entirely know UT as it is. WeaponPowerup works with default DispersionPistol and Amplifier makes it another devastator when Dipersion has PoweLevel4 - RED projectiles, and they become bigger ones. I worked my ass to bring them in MH because... Shrimp forgot them, or ignored them.

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Re: What is this? (Monster Hunt)

Post by Chamberly » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:27 pm

Gotta love power up! :)
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Re: What is this? (Monster Hunt)

Post by papercoffee » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:38 pm

I'm for redesigning the Dispersion Pistol. Design wise it was the ugliest gun in Unreal. But I liked the power-up function.

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Re: What is this? (Monster Hunt)

Post by EvilGrins » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:25 am

Yeah, it's the DispersionPistol's powerup... although I do have a rocketlaunch mutator where it's a slow moving projectile that cruises around a map and shoots at other players who aren't you.
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Re: What is this? (Monster Hunt)

Post by editor Dave » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:32 pm

papercoffee wrote:I'm for redesigning the Dispersion Pistol. Design wise it was the ugliest gun in Unreal. But I liked the power-up function.
Just DO it! :tongue:

Actually, I did not dislike the design, but it always fascinated me imagining a fifth or a sixth powerup (with a model change, of course), since you could get more batteries in the original Unreal than powerups possible. It's like with Super saiyans: They stop at 4 and people like to design infinitely further transformations!
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Re: What is this? (Monster Hunt)

Post by Aldebaran » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:11 pm

Old UT Veteran wrote:That's a Dispersion Pistol Power-up.
Yes, but I wonder why I can't collect it. An amplifier is collectable. It activates itself automatically but it shows no effect to anything.
sektor2111 wrote:an ASMD amplified is a real devastator.
So an amplifier is a Power-Up for ASMD weapons?

There is another object that produces a red field, but only at the position where you found it.
I never used one of those things even with standard weapons so in my case it would make sense to change these purposes/functions for these mentioned objects to better ones...
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Re: What is this? (Monster Hunt)

Post by sektor2111 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:31 pm

WeaponPowerUp is addressing only DispersionPistol - if you don't have it or you have a replacement it won't react at your touch.
Amplifier is a sort of UDamage but addressing 2 things: DispersionPistol and ASMD - NOT other replacements, but child classes (if exist). This pickup is collectable but as mentioned won't do nothing at other stuff than desired Weaponry except bugging HUD with a red foggy thing.
Else some test:
Get a map having these (all of them) and use WTriggerer Mutator with original MH. MH replacements won't be accepted being blocked by WTriggerer, so you can figure how do they work with Original weaponry. Else probably I have to draw a small lousy test Level for clarification.

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Re: What is this? (Monster Hunt)

Post by papercoffee » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:02 pm

editor Dave wrote:
papercoffee wrote:I'm for redesigning the Dispersion Pistol. Design wise it was the ugliest gun in Unreal. But I liked the power-up function.
Just DO it! :tongue:

Actually, I did not dislike the design, but it always fascinated me imagining a fifth or a sixth powerup (with a model change, of course), since you could get more batteries in the original Unreal than powerups possible. It's like with Super saiyans: They stop at 4 and people like to design infinitely further transformations!
Ok I'll come up with an design for it ...I can imagine a new game mode for UT/Unreal as well.
Something like Gun Game where you get a an upgrade for every third kill and loose one if you got hammered and the opponent who hammered you gets the upgrade instead. :mrgreen: Who makes the last three kills with the last upgrade wins.

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Re: What is this? (Monster Hunt)

Post by Chamberly » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:58 pm

Well, I bet you can't pick up the flares too. The red sticks laying around, and you kick them and lights come on? Yeah, that.

Most of the times, there are working in Unreal game and in MH in UT here is a different set up. So you couldn't pick up the forcefield (pink lazer device), flare, etc. due to broken inventory chain in MH whatever version you are playing or whatever server have that set up.

If you played Unreal Coop, you'd see why it is more functional there than just UT's MH from what I've seen.
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Re: What is this? (Monster Hunt)

Post by EvilGrins » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:57 pm

editor Dave wrote:
papercoffee wrote:I'm for redesigning the Dispersion Pistol. Design wise it was the ugliest gun in Unreal. But I liked the power-up function.
Just DO it! :tongue:
Often discussed, never done · viewtopic.php?f=15&t=4080
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Re: What is this? (Monster Hunt)

Post by papercoffee » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:09 am

EvilGrins wrote:
editor Dave wrote:
papercoffee wrote:I'm for redesigning the Dispersion Pistol. Design wise it was the ugliest gun in Unreal. But I liked the power-up function.
Just DO it! :tongue:
Often discussed, never done · viewtopic.php?f=15&t=4080
You are right ...time to change this.

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Re: What is this? (Monster Hunt)

Post by papercoffee » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:21 pm

papercoffee wrote:
EvilGrins wrote:
editor Dave wrote:
papercoffee wrote:I'm for redesigning the Dispersion Pistol. Design wise it was the ugliest gun in Unreal. But I liked the power-up function.
Just DO it! :tongue:
Often discussed, never done · viewtopic.php?f=15&t=4080
You are right ...time to change this.
@editor Dave viewtopic.php?f=7&t=11982 :mrgreen: