Where's BeyondUnreal?

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Where's BeyondUnreal?

Post by Hellkeeper » Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:29 pm

Beyond Unreal is currently offline. Common occurence for the forum and the hosted sites like the UnrealWiki, but this time the whole site is unaccessible. Is anybody aware of something going on or has it finally been put to rest along with my childhood?
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Re: Where's BeyondUnreal?

Post by Gustavo6046 » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:49 pm

It is le big ded. Press F to pay respects.

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Re: Where's BeyondUnreal?

Post by EvilGrins » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:12 pm

http://unreal-games.livejournal.com/
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Re: Where's BeyondUnreal?

Post by Dr.Flay » Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:49 am

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Re: Where's BeyondUnreal?

Post by Novaeon » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:33 pm

Does anyone have a mirror available for the unrealEd wiki they hosted? I tried several times to download it off their site when it was still up, but the links were dead whenever I tried.

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Re: Where's BeyondUnreal?

Post by Hellkeeper » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:40 pm

Dr.Flay wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:49 am
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That's a relief.
Novaeon wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:33 pm
Does anyone have a mirror available for the unrealEd wiki they hosted? I tried several times to download it off their site when it was still up, but the links were dead whenever I tried.
Hyper.nl has a backup, but I don't know when it was made and at what point in time it stopped, though I believe it didn't change too much these last years.
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Re: Where's BeyondUnreal?

Post by EvilGrins » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:04 pm

BU was kinda dead for most UT, although they had weekly UT3 matches which they made into videos that were fun to watch.
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Re: Where's BeyondUnreal?

Post by sektor2111 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:00 am

Hellkeeper wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:40 pm
Hyper.nl has a backup, but I don't know when it was made and at what point in time it stopped, though I believe it didn't change too much these last years.
Yep... and the same OUTDATED, INCOMPLETE and even FALSE info. Right now I was looking what they said at Bot Pathing... lol :loool: the same ramp myths and ZERO explanations or points at reachspecs which are the BASE of navigation and not "Pickup". Pickup is a kidnapper not a NavigationPoint, it has (OR NOT) an InventorySpot which is like a PathNode and not Pickup itself... Pickups without InventorySpots are Nothing for processing navigation...
IdioticWiki wrote: No farther then 300 to 350 on steps and ramps
Lies ! Fake News ! Premature Alzheimer ! This only loads processing for ZERO purposes.
This is a logic geometry issue with PathNode's collision cylinder during placement vs Bot's Collision Cylinder - put Nodes lowered with 15-18 units or more in ramps and you can use even 650-700 without a single problem. Then... what if I say that I have even 1400 UU longer paths on a mountain ? If you don't believe me then do an experiment in a 800 UU ramp using a combo Le-Lc at bottom and Le as exit/entry on top and placed properly over ground for being "taken".

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class NavigationPoint extends Actor
	native;
...
var() bool taken; //set when a creature is occupying this spot
//English to English Translation: When Location X,Y,Z of the Node is "INSIDE" creature's cylinder arrived here, just like that.
var() int upstreamPaths[16];
var() int Paths[16]; //index of reachspecs (used by C++ Navigation code)
// 2020: And even primitive UScript functions happily written by sektor2111 as longs as it can be accessed from there and aren't constants, for making corrections to your abominations
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Re: Where's BeyondUnreal?

Post by Hellkeeper » Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:53 pm

sektor2111 wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:00 am
Hellkeeper wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:40 pm
Hyper.nl has a backup, but I don't know when it was made and at what point in time it stopped, though I believe it didn't change too much these last years.
Yep... and the same OUTDATED, INCOMPLETE and even FALSE info. Right now I was looking what they said at Bot Pathing... lol :loool: the same ramp myths and ZERO explanations or points at reachspecs which are the BASE of navigation and not "Pickup". Pickup is a kidnapper not a NavigationPoint, it has (OR NOT) an InventorySpot which is like a PathNode and not Pickup itself... Pickups without InventorySpots are Nothing for processing navigation...
IdioticWiki wrote: No farther then 300 to 350 on steps and ramps
Lies ! Fake News ! Premature Alzheimer ! This only loads processing for ZERO purposes.
This is a logic geometry issue with PathNode's collision cylinder during placement vs Bot's Collision Cylinder - put Nodes lowered with 15-18 units or more in ramps and you can use even 650-700 without a single problem. Then... what if I say that I have even 1400 UU longer paths on a mountain ? If you don't believe me then do an experiment in a 800 UU ramp using a combo Le-Lc at bottom and Le as exit/entry on top and placed properly over ground for being "taken".

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class NavigationPoint extends Actor
	native;
...
var() bool taken; //set when a creature is occupying this spot
//English to English Translation: When Location X,Y,Z of the Node is "INSIDE" creature's cylinder arrived here, just like that.
var() int upstreamPaths[16];
var() int Paths[16]; //index of reachspecs (used by C++ Navigation code)
// 2020: And even primitive UScript functions happily written by sektor2111 as longs as it can be accessed from there and aren't constants, for making corrections to your abominations
...
I don't know why you're posting this here. Why not change the wiki instead of posting away on an obscure thread which will be forgotten in 2 monthes?
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Re: Where's BeyondUnreal?

Post by sektor2111 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:33 pm

Okay, I promise that I won't quote these wreck-type informations. When outdated Wiki-s are out, I think I intend to applause... :mrgreen: at least new mapper won't learn dumb content while these are out :lol2: . I was expecting from pro masters to update these based on a well written language but... even protecting these places is a hard task... as it is demonstrated X times.

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My advice is decompiling/exporting all uc classes, they (uc classes) have remarks - Wiki is written the mostly based on those remarks, and it doesn't look like has more additional info based on natives. The rest is... tutorials and more or less working and experimenting alone, using "log" function and all that stuff.

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Re: Where's BeyondUnreal?

Post by Dennis » Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:03 pm

Novaeon wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:33 pm
Does anyone have a mirror available for the unrealEd wiki they hosted? I tried several times to download it off their site when it was still up, but the links were dead whenever I tried.
I have an old copy of their "offline wiki" dated 11-05-2014. It's 61 mb in filesize, so I don't know how to send it as it's too large to attach here or to send by e-mail. I've unzipped it and tried to surf in it, it seems broken on todays hardware/software when I enter from the index.php page, but maybe I just got to install some patch software to make my windows backwards compatible? When I look into the directories of the wiki all the articles looks intact and in (some kind) of logic order.