UTDMT under 469 patch

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UTDMT under 469 patch

Post by EvilGrins » Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:16 am

Kinda forgot about this until just now... I never got this confirmed · http://forum.ultimateut.tk/viewtopic.ph ... 1043#p2595

He's suggesting that under 469 the UTDM-monsters don't work.

Anybody know what he's talking about?
Is that correct?
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Re: UTDMT under 469 patch

Post by Aspide » Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:24 am

Yes it is!!! I tested CTF-(UTW)CageTitans (witch has UTDMT Titans) with the 469 patch and the Titans don't fight back :( . Everything else seems to be working though.
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Re: UTDMT under 469 patch

Post by EvilGrins » Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:21 am

Aspide wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:24 am
Yes it is!!! I tested CTF-(UTW)CageTitans (witch has UTDMT Titans) with the 469 patch and the Titans don't fight back :( . Everything else seems to be working though.
Guess then I'm not getting that patch.
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Re: UTDMT under 469 patch

Post by papercoffee » Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:26 am

Dude ...request a patched UTDMT.

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Re: UTDMT under 469 patch

Post by EvilGrins » Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:55 am

papercoffee wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:26 am
Dude ...request a patched UTDMT.
Are they making individually patched items?

Because I'd need such for each UTDM-monster... or, at the very least, find someone to figure out why they aren't doing as they used to.
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Re: UTDMT under 469 patch

Post by Buggie » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:31 am

Until you not fill issue on github (usually in form: Reproduce steps, Expected result, Actual result), issue not exists.
So nobody will investigate it.

So if your way is
EvilGrins wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:21 am
Guess then I'm not getting that patch.
issue can be never solved.

If you want solve issue and
EvilGrins wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:55 am
find someone to figure out why they aren't doing as they used to.

You need make issue with minimal reproducible example for start.
After that can be options, but that very good attempt for success.

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Re: UTDMT under 469 patch

Post by EvilGrins » Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:02 am

Buggie wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:31 am
So if your way is
EvilGrins wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:21 am
Guess then I'm not getting that patch.
issue can be never solved.
On the contrary, the issue would need to be solved BEFORE I get the patch, if it can be fixed at all.

If it can't, the patch is a limitation I don't need.

Also, it may be worth considering that there used to be a monster issue for normal standard monsters where they ignored players in all gametypes that weren't MH, which started after the previous patch. Now, that was fixable, slight adjustments in the UnrealTournament.ini cleared that up... but has anyone checked how Unreal monsters are under the new patch yet? Outside of MH.
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Re: UTDMT under 469 patch

Post by Buggie » Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:20 am

You talk about patch as of some irreversible thing, which can be applied to game without any possibility use old version after.
It is not true.

You can copy game folder, apply patch and use both versions, old and new.

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Re: UTDMT under 469 patch

Post by EvilGrins » Thu Nov 04, 2021 10:51 am

Buggie wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:20 am
You talk about patch as of some irreversible thing
Not really, I know full well I can use it and then get rid of it. Hardly my 1st experience with a patch... but I don't feel a need to get it.

I mean, I could've gotten it long before now; been available for awhile... but there's no rush.

Less rush as I now know about this particular problem.
Aspide wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:24 am
Yes it is!!! I tested CTF-(UTW)CageTitans
Had to double check that map, as it happens I have it. Maybe not the best map to judge as the UTDMT are locked in cages.

I prefer them a bit more free range.

Test it on this:
https://unreal-games.livejournal.com/150420.html
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Re: UTDMT under 469 patch

Post by Buggie » Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:10 am

Well. Possible if you start feedback at v469a, then at v469b your problem be solved.
Look like you not really need fix it. So possible you miss window of opportunity for v469c and all can goes to v469d or later. Which can out after few years.
Yours choice.

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Re: UTDMT under 469 patch

Post by TankBeef » Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:00 pm

EvilGrins wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:21 am
Guess then I'm not getting that patch.
Well Grins, what can I say? It is your choice. It is anyone's choice. The patch is not mandatory. But you know what? I like the patch. A lot. I am not going back to 436. Ever. For me, the benefits outweigh any "inconveniences". Ok, so you found a glitch? Well, that is what github is for. You know, this is an effort to make this game that we love even better, and only one or two people are working on it, and for me they deserve respect and appreciation. And they don't get enough.

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Re: UTDMT under 469 patch

Post by EvilGrins » Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:47 pm

What exactly is github?
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Re: UTDMT under 469 patch

Post by Deepu » Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:15 pm

I told that early, update the set enemy function in UTDMT.u file, fixed in Monster match

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Re: UTDMT under 469 patch

Post by OjitroC » Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:00 pm

EvilGrins wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:47 pm
What exactly is github?
It's the repository for the 469 patches and the place for reporting issues with the patches - check it out https://github.com/OldUnreal/UnrealTour ... hes/issues.
EvilGrins wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:02 am
Also, it may be worth considering that there used to be a monster issue for normal standard monsters where they ignored players in all gametypes that weren't MH, which started after the previous patch. Now, that was fixable, slight adjustments in the UnrealTournament.ini cleared that up... but has anyone checked how Unreal monsters are under the new patch yet? Outside of MH.
The Unreal monsters work fine in 469b using Monster Spawn - no problems at all that I've noticed (some improvements, no more spam from the brute rocket for example). Subclasses of UnrealShare and UnrealI monsters created long before 469b also work fine (as one woud expect).
Deepu wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:15 pm
I told that early, update the set enemy function in UTDMT.u file, fixed in Monster match
It someone is updating that package, it would be nice to address all the log spam (a kill by or of a Titan results in multiple messages in the log) as well plus issues which sektor has highlighted.

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Re: UTDMT under 469 patch

Post by TankBeef » Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:18 pm

OjitroC wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:00 pm
EvilGrins wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 2:47 pm
What exactly is github?
It's the repository for the 469 patches and the place for reporting issues with the patches - check it out https://github.com/OldUnreal/UnrealTour ... hes/issues.
Yeah, well, I'm not sure if he was being sarcastic, cause a simple search on your favorite search engine will show exactly that. :wth:
But I will stop right here. I don't want to add more fuel to this nonsense.