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House rules #9 are clear?

Post by Dennis » Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:59 am

I do not understand house rule #9?
9. No proposals / postings / threads to right-wing extremists offers or similar unconstitutional contents. This applies to avatars as well as to signatures.
Does this rule only aply to members from within USA? It seem to be bound to the constitution wich is only in effect in the USA? One very political rule I must say and politics are already covered in rule #5 so what is it I must pay attention to when reading rule #9?
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Re: House rules #9 are clear?

Post by OjitroC » Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:41 pm

USA is by no means the only country with a constitution (whether codified or uncodified) so you are right that this rule is unclear in a narrow sense - which constitution does the Rule refer to? Is it the constitution of the country in which a poster resides for example?

In a broad sense the meaning is clear - in essence 'nothing on the forum should refer to or relate to right-wing extremeism' or to similar ideologies.

I have no idea what the precise legal position is but it is possible that, since the UT99.org server is located in France, 'unconstitutional' would be something that did not conform to, or conflicted in any way with the provisions of, the constitution of France.

I'm not sure that there is a major issue here - given that this question has only now been raised - but possibly the Rule needs to be rewritten to achieve greater clarity (and to broaden its scope to include racism, sexism, homophobia, etc, etc)? Should it refer only to a constitution ('unconstitutional') rather than to legislation?

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Re: House rules #9 are clear?

Post by Feralidragon » Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:00 pm

Yeah, a lot of these types of rules basically come from standard templates, which are often written by US people, thus they often take mostly into account their own constitution and laws from their own country.

I guess to prevent confusion such as yours, probably the "unconstitutional" part should simply be removed, given that constitutions vary, and quite a lot, across different countries.
Or it could be replaced with "similar ideologies" instead.

Right-wing extremism, on the other hand, means the same regardless of the country, since it's defined the same globally, so that one should be already clear enough.

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Re: House rules #9 are clear?

Post by TankBeef » Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:41 pm

In the end, what I "do not understand" is why this is an issue, why you brought it up, what are you trying to achieve by bringing it up, and if you think people in this forum are naive and stupid. :noidea
Someone else, about a week ago or so? :what: Tried to link to some pseudoscience misinformation crap video. :wth: We do not, or at least I think we don't, need that junk around here.

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Re: House rules #9 are clear?

Post by EvilGrins » Sun Oct 30, 2022 11:19 pm

Dennis wrote:
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I do not understand house rule #9?
Keep it simple, don't discuss politics.
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Re: House rules #9 are clear?

Post by Dennis » Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:17 pm

TankBeef wrote:
Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:41 pm
In the end, what I "do not understand" is why this is an issue, why you brought it up, what are you trying to achieve by bringing it up, and if you think people in this forum are naive and stupid. :noidea
Someone else, about a week ago or so? :what: Tried to link to some pseudoscience misinformation crap video. :wth: We do not, or at least I think we don't, need that junk around here.
I just asked a question? What others do have nothing to do with this why do you chain that together? I do not think people in this forum are naive and stupid that is your words and thoughts in your mind do not twist your thoughts into be something I have said just stop.
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Re: House rules #9 are clear?

Post by EvilGrins » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:05 am

Well, this is the 9th from my HOUSE RULES!?! post:
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And my "officially UNOFFICIAL rules for the UT99 forum" post didn't have a specific 9th rule, but here:
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Re: House rules #9 are clear?

Post by TankBeef » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:42 pm

Dennis wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:17 pm
I just asked a question?
Well...people do not "just ask a question". There is always a reason.
And I respect if you do not want to, there is no obligation, but...the way you are concerned about that particular rule comes out as if maybe (not saying that you are, I say maybe) you are trying to find a loophole to be able to post right wing extremism stuff. Cause I agree, the rule may seem redundant, but I do not see it doing any harm. :noidea

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Re: House rules #9 are clear?

Post by sektor2111 » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:47 pm

I'm not going to discuss rules established but I was wondering about sudden new "members" some of them are fascinating by ID used - first 4-5 letters of two with unreadable words are joined and I think they are just BOTS and nobody is saying anything, nor wiping floor. For duplicated accounts, rule seems discarded as well.

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Re: House rules #9 are clear?

Post by papercoffee » Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:02 am

sektor2111 wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:47 pm
I'm not going to discuss rules established but I was wondering about sudden new "members" some of them are fascinating by ID used - first 4-5 letters of two with unreadable words are joined and I think they are just BOTS and nobody is saying anything, nor wiping floor. For duplicated accounts, rule seems discarded as well.
Banned those two