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Re: Error Messages

Postby heliumcat » Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:00 am

JackGriffin wrote:You could literally create a batch file that overwrites the core UT files every single evening and it will never affect your game, it will only prevent corrupted files from giving you issues. You are going to find that UT loves to throw weird errors that don't make sense and you'll chase your tail trying to figure it out. Maybe you'll get an answer, maybe you won't but at the end of the day I just want it fixed so I can go back to doing what I was doing. In-place overwrites accomplish this easily.

I don't know if core files being corrupted is the main reason for most of those critical error crashes, sounds to me like it's just some bugfest induced by having too many custom content (mods, mutators, weapons, pawns...) running at once that weren't meant (or bugfixed) to run together in the first place or at least not in the way the user who has these crashes runs it.

I mean for having mods in video games in general, all I can say is:
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Re: Error Messages

Postby Saya-chan » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:12 am

But it crashes even if you don't mod it, that's not a good example!
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Re: Error Messages

Postby heliumcat » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:50 pm

Saya-chan wrote:But it crashes even if you don't mod it, that's not a good example!

Does UT99 corrupt itself only while you run it?

What about copying the whole UnrealTournament folder (when it's still in a good state) to an external hard drive and keeping that as an emergency backup?

Or maybe reinstalling the v436 patch?
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Re: Error Messages

Postby JackGriffin » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:59 pm

It's just been my experience with the engine over these years that UT gets corrupted over time. I have a pretty good idea how it's messing up and I shared that with Anthrax because it's inducible from server to client and so I won't explain it (obviously). I'm not sure if it's something he could address but suffice to say that an in-place overwrite will repair any damage done. This damage is somewhat unavoidable but certain behaviors (like heavy modding) can worsen it so over extended amounts of time the odds are that your performance will degrade resulting in various crashing.
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Re: Error Messages

Postby EvilGrins » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:33 pm

Actually, I tend to think my newer install of UT is more corrupt than my original.

I transferred over all maps and files that went with them to the newer install. One of my favorite maps from back in the day was DM-CityLights; great map. However, it doesn't look right on my newer install but looks perfect on my original.

All the files are there, I didn't miss anything, but not all the textures are showing up as they should under the newer install.

It's not keeping me up nights or anything, but it confuses the heck outta me.
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Re: Error Messages

Postby papercoffee » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:29 pm

EvilGrins wrote:Actually, I tend to think my newer install of UT is more corrupt than my original.

I transferred over all maps and files that went with them to the newer install. One of my favorite maps from back in the day was DM-CityLights; great map. However, it doesn't look right on my newer install but looks perfect on my original.

All the files are there, I didn't miss anything, but not all the textures are showing up as they should under the newer install.

It's not keeping me up nights or anything, but it confuses the heck outta me.

Did you change what render UT should use as well? I tend to forget this sometimes.
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Re: Error Messages

Postby heliumcat » Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:04 pm

Can anyone actually explain this?

http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=183396

http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=29286

I'm thinking of excluding that map from xmaps, as it happens everytime aswell here, on more than one computer.
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Re: Error Messages

Postby papercoffee » Wed May 13, 2015 11:01 pm

Reviving this thread with an error message... I tested my D3D renderer (normally I'm using OpenGL)

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I was just browsing my map folder and didn't even start the map.
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Re: Error Messages

Postby FXANBSS » Thu May 14, 2015 9:04 pm

I have those errors everytime, but HUGE. :)
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Re: Error Messages

Postby lubbeb » Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:30 am

papercoffee wrote:Reviving this thread with an error message... I tested my D3D renderer (normally I'm using OpenGL)

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I was just browsing my map folder and didn't even start the map.




help! me too, I cant fix it
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Re: Error Messages

Postby EvilGrins » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:42 pm

Totally forgot about this:
papercoffee wrote:Did you change what render UT should use as well? I tend to forget this sometimes.

Nah, both versions are setup with the same renderer.
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Re: Error Messages

Postby EvilGrins » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:22 pm

This 1st one's no big deal, but I'm still curious:
- playing CTF4 on a standard CTF map
- happened on the winning point
- there were 4 UTDMT on the map
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What is that even about?

Most curious about these two:
I knew getting Windows 10 might cause issues with ut2004, and it does, but I had no idea it would effect Unreal2 also.

Unreal 2
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ut2004
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I largely only ever played ut2004 for bot matches, but I still love going through Unreal2 every so often. Anything way around that, for both?
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Re: Error Messages

Postby Wormbo » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:31 pm

Finding fixes for that seems really hard. However, I found a very secret link that through some obscure internet magic actually gathers those fixing instructions in a neat list: click me
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Re: Error Messages

Postby EvilGrins » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:39 pm

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Wormbo wrote:Finding fixes for that seems really hard. However, I found a very secret link that through some obscure internet magic actually gathers those fixing instructions in a neat list: click me

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Thank you, kind sir. That was amazing!

Is there also such magic for Unreal2?
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Re: Error Messages

Postby EvilGrins » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:26 am

Translation please!
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What happened?!?
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