Phone cab :D

[PrinceOfFunky]

Heyyy all I'm making this phone:
according to this pic I found on the internet .o. : http://dysfunctionalrequirements.com/wp ... o1_400.jpg

Do you like it?

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Jk obviously, I made it according to this pic: http://www.criminalelement.com/images/s ... -bunny.jpg

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IkIk... I trolled you but, this time, it is not a troll trust me this is the real pic: http://immagini.4ever.eu/data/download/ ... 166336.jpg

[UnrealGGecko]

... You trolly bastard

I like the phone, would be nice to put it in some city maps.

[PrinceOfFunky]

... You trolly bastard

I like the phone, would be nice to put it in some city maps.

I actually made it for the map DM-(NotYet)Condemned from my next map pack u.u and it is a city map
I made it better adding the numbers on the dialer: http://new4.fjcdn.com/pictures/Glados_f ... 467408.jpg

[editor Dave]

Nice one! But this looks awkwardly offgrid. Did you use the mainscale tool to reduce the size or is it just on a very small grid? If you get BSP problems, don't blame the ED!
Also, I would change the "numpad cubes" with one bigger cube that has a texture with all numbers so you can reduce errors/save polygons. I did a little research and this one might fit pretty well, I think: http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-image-d ... ge22810901
And lastly: Where's the cable?

[papercoffee]

Aaaaaand I would turn them into meshes...

[PrinceOfFunky]

Aaaaaand I would turn them into meshes...

I'm not a meshman XD I see meshes causes weird visual effects, especially when trying to place it in the map on the right position, I prefer be lazy and snap it :3

Nice one! But this looks awkwardly offgrid. Did you use the mainscale tool to reduce the size or is it just on a very small grid? If you get BSP problems, don't blame the ED!
Also, I would change the "numpad cubes" with one bigger cube that has a texture with all numbers so you can reduce errors/save polygons. I did a little research and this one might fit pretty well, I think: http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-image-d ... ge22810901
And lastly: Where's the cable?

They are a bit taller than a PlayerPawn.
I decided to not to put any non-standard texture on it, so it can be used onto any map using standard textures(for example, the "PHONE" write, is not a texture).
Cable? .o. Yeah I know XD But if I put a cable I would need a texture to do it, but maybe I could intersecate a brush to make a inprinted cable. Fact is, I wanted make two versions of this phone cab: 1-Cab phone with the phone hanged up. 2-Cab phone with the phone picked up(down actually).

[Dr.Flay]

If you don't know what you are doing then meshes can look odd, but if you know why you would require smoothing, curved surfaces or animated/reactive items, then they are often much more versatile.
Read the brief info from William Sherriff http://web.archive.org/web/200502050922 ... Decos.html

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Destroyable phones (are more fun)

William Sherriff deco thread https://www.ut99.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4311&start=0
Plus they will never give you any BSP errors, can emit sound, light, and be used as triggers or events, can be made to float, bounce and contain other items.
Meshes are the ultimate in lazy map building, as you don't have to care about snapping to a grid or intersections, compared with a brush that is fussy about rounding errors and being placed very very carefully into only some of a mappable area, and what order you did it in.

I am not convinced 1 bit that BSP street furniture is good, since stripping all the street-lights, bins, benches and drain covers from a city map, and replacing all with decos/meshes.
I got rid of loads of BSP errors and gained loads of speed, so I could then put more stuff in the map without lag.

Frag is the house expert on good use of decos. Check his maps to see them well used.

[editor Dave]

Ah, I see. I didn't notice the Phone writing being brushes. Nice way to push up the poly count

Are these textures options?

Pad
Mine: mcontrol
PlayrShip: Vkboard

Cable
SGTech: hangcables2
Skaarj: TB_1, TB_2

Phone
I'm not creative enough for that lol

[PrinceOfFunky]

Where's the cable?

Happy now? XD

If you don't know what you are doing then meshes can look odd, but if you know why you would require smoothing, curved surfaces or animated/reactive items, then they are often much more versatile.
Read the brief info from William Sherriff http://web.archive.org/web/200502050922 ... Decos.html

Smoothing.jpg

Destroyable phones (are more fun)

William Sherriff deco thread https://www.ut99.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4311&start=0
Plus they will never give you any BSP errors, can emit sound, light, and be used as triggers or events, can be made to float, bounce and contain other items.
Meshes are the ultimate in lazy map building, as you don't have to care about snapping to a grid or intersections, compared with a brush that is fussy about rounding errors and being placed very very carefully into only some of a mappable area, and what order you did it in.

I am not convinced 1 bit that BSP street furniture is good, since stripping all the street-lights, bins, benches and drain covers from a city map, and replacing all with decos/meshes.
I got rid of loads of BSP errors and gained loads of speed, so I could then put more stuff in the map without lag.

Frag is the house expert on good use of decos. Check his maps to see them well used.

well you're right about meshes, but I never made a mesh for UT, I tried once with a Nyan cat and it became all buggy :/
Let's say, this Phone cab is made old-skool style

[papercoffee]

Did you try the MeshMaker?

[PrinceOfFunky]

Did you try the MeshMaker?

Nu :/ Is it an UnrealEd tool that I can download?

[JackGriffin]

Learn to love meshmaker, it's the shit.

[Dr.Flay]

http://wiki.beyondunreal.com/Legacy:MeshMaker
Learning when to mix the 2 types is key to optimal maps with lots of nice detailing. Both methods have limitations, but between them you can cover many situations.
I use destroyable widow decos rather than the traditional breaking wall effect, and public trash cans set to be movable and fairly heavy. This allows you to crouch behind it and push it into the street as a temporary shield if you get pinned-down. I always use mesh cardboard-boxes, bottles, cans, chairs etc. as it annoys the hell out of me when even a rocket launcher cannot destroy or move a piece of thick paper (one of my city edits has public and home trash cans, recycling boxes, bottles, cans, pizza boxes, sheets of newspaper, rats, cockroaches, and birds. All these need to be dynamic so you can explore the back-alleys and it all feels alive/lived-in even if you are alone... or hiding from zombies.

Creavions DM-FeelNaPali uses a subtle mix of BSP and meshes to cover for engine limitations.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4007
The carved face on the hill was tried as a brush and mesh because of the difference in the way lighting works on it.

[PrinceOfFunky]

Why? It is funny but sad XD

[editor Dave]

Yay, a cable! But I can't tell what causes the error, maybe the brush was too complex? Coincidentally, recently I had a similar error with a much simpler brush, although I had never had problems before...