brainstorming ideas for redirect

[noccer]

No compression, check serverfiles hash against redirect files hash, upload redirect file to player, done.

md5 does not match? Check file on redirect 2, does hash match, upload, done.

[UT99.org]

Wouldn't work with-out native. I would store them compressed at 120gb even if another file held data about them. Anyway it's become obvious that you don't understand simple concepts like how Uscript on a linux ut is the same as Uscript on a windows ut. toodles bud still awaiting an explanation on that one in the pm

[Wises]

No compression, check serverfiles hash against redirect files hash, upload redirect file to player, done.

md5 does not match? Check file on redirect 2, does hash match, upload, done.

pretty much in a nutshell noccer.

but as you will find .. Nothing is ever easy in UT.

[noccer]

but as you will find .. Nothing is ever easy in UT.

True.

I have no idea if it would work for ut, like i suggested it.

If not, hey, this is a brainstorming thread

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Anyway it's become obvious that you don't understand simple concepts like how Uscript on a linux ut is the same as Uscript on a windows ut. toodles bud still awaiting an explanation on that one in the pm

I don´t know what you are talking about. Please find a hairdresser and tell him your problems. I don´t care for them.

[Higor]

Newer UnrealEngine do challenge with a GUID on the package name, and you can have various cached packages with same name and different GUID, and in UE3, language support is added as well.
Thing here is:
- Server runs a MOD.u, version 13, lang=english.
- Client has MOD.u, version 6, lang=spanish.

The language thing is easily solved, as you conform version 6 spanish against version 6 english, so you gain the ability to join both v6_eng and v6_spa servers (servers should exclusively run v6_eng tho).
Versions can be handled via conformation as well, but there you have ACE being a bitch.
And using an external redirect is going to be no help at all, unless the redirect supports UT GUID seeking.

So, redirect GUID based packages:
- Rename duplicate files like MOD.u.uz1, MOD.u.uz2, etc.
- Run a script that finds files with .uzN extension, cache GUID for both these filse and the original .uz into GUID.ini
- Redirect must be able to parse URLs formed like this: http://www.domainname.domain/path/file?utguid=GUID, and if utguid= keyword is found, and have the server's program send this file instead.
(Keeping the base .uz instead of starting with .uz0 or .uz1 guarantees backwards compatibility).
- Client must reimplement the FindPackage systemwide method (CORE_API) and have it check GUID when joining (UE3's code for that but implementing it is a different story).
- Write a new HTTPDownload manager (or hack current) for clients to send the required file's GUID in the HTTP request.

Server GUID based packages:
- Server cannot have dupes, so no change here.
- Client must reimplement the FindPackage systemwide method (CORE_API) and have it check GUID when joining (UE3's code for that but implementing it is a different story).

Conformation solves the issue, until you stumble upon two completely different packages with the same name.
The best way to deal with this is to merge them, and conform the merged package against the most used one.
So you get a package that contains all resources, and is backwards compatible to one of the older ones.
(Clients still have to delete their version and update).

[UT99.org]

Anyway it's become obvious that you don't understand simple concepts like how Uscript on a linux ut is the same as Uscript on a windows ut. toodles bud still awaiting an explanation on that one in the pm

I don´t know what you are talking about. Please find a hairdresser and tell him your problems. I don´t care for them.

Unfortunately these messages read backwards. The disclaimer here is I don't normally post PMs, this guy has been hounding me in public for months now and I feel I can break etiquette to let others here know what he's like in private

@Noccer

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[papercoffee]

Nope ...private messages are private ...I made a mistake once by just quoting a little sentence out of a PM.
And justifiably so I got scolded.

Please refrain from posting PMs in public ...nothing good will come from it.
Put him on the ignore list ...and set him up as foe.

[Rork]

I'm with higor here.

As opposed to a database an easier solution would be to rename the files including the GUID, e.g Zan_b.dbdc5a8147ef0550015a7abba58878e5.umx.uz. The filename of the package is stored inside the .uz so renaming it won't be a problem (unless the windows ucc behavours differently). I'm not sure if UT can handle the renamed package though but I think it won't be a problem as UT will just receive the data and sticks it's own name on it or might carry on with the renamed package?. In the end it's also possible that a script picks up the request and sends the required file as Zan_b.umx.uz,.

Some files (i.e. package format < 68) do not come with an easily extractible guid, although I think UT does send it in the request. For these the guid should be determined in another way.