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DM-ForbiddenTomb

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:37 am
by Diego_HoF
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DM-ForbiddenTomb

What happends when a company like Liandri finds a forbidden king's tomb with tresaures?
Well sell the tresaures and convert the tomb to a Unreal Tournament Arena, but for some reason
some workers disappear or got kill by something inside the pyramid during exploration and set up.

But Liandri didn't care about it and with this extra mystery will make this Forbidden Tomb a nice play to fight and die.

WARNING:
This map is dangerous for any contender that doesn't know about them, BE CAREFUL.

Central Area(Safe Zone?)
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Rooms
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Re: DM-Tombstone

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:19 am
by papercoffee
:shock: This is a lot of open space ...there is nowhere to hide or to counter-play.
Here just for inspiration my own pyramid themed map http://www.mapraider.com/maps/unreal-to ... gWar-Kairo :mrgreen:

Re: DM-Tombstone

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:27 am
by Diego_HoF
papercoffee wrote::shock: This is a lot of open space ...there is nowhere to hide or to counter-play.
Here just for inspiration my own pyramid themed map http://www.mapraider.com/maps/unreal-to ... gWar-Kairo :mrgreen:
Well if you want to fight outside and get bored ok.... the fun is inside the pyramid and hidden hehehehe :satan:

Re: DM-Tombstone

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:46 am
by papercoffee
Diego_HoF wrote:
papercoffee wrote::shock: This is a lot of open space ...there is nowhere to hide or to counter-play.
Here just for inspiration my own pyramid themed map http://www.mapraider.com/maps/unreal-to ... gWar-Kairo :mrgreen:
Well if you want to fight outside and get bored ok.... the fun is inside the pyramid and hidden hehehehe :satan:
I've meant the inside. ;)

Re: DM-Tombstone

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:00 am
by Hook
There already is a DM-Tombstone! :-|

Re: DM-Tombstone

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:30 am
by EvilGrins
Hook wrote:There already is a DM-Tombstone! :-|
I was about to say that. Although the DM-Tombstone I'm familiar with is based on the shootout at the OK Corral.

Re: DM-Tombstone

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:34 am
by Diego_HoF
EvilGrins wrote:
Hook wrote:There already is a DM-Tombstone! :-|
I was about to say that. Although the DM-Tombstone I'm familiar with is based on the shootout at the OK Corral.
Well damn.... didn't know that, after checking it, there like 5 versions of Tombstone(SUF,UFC).

Gonna change it to DM-ForbiddenTomb just to keep the theme,i know i can add like DEG or HoF or something to it but i don't want to, and can't use DIE.

Re: DM-ForbiddenTomb

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:21 am
by sektor2111
And by using generic names, soon, another dude will do a map named like that. What's the purpose for using generic names which anyone can use ? Mismatches. Who cares anyway ? They are not stock files.
AS another info, AlternatePath in a DM is USELESS. If you are using Editor to do the Bot Pathing I'm not interested - You need to learn this chapter. Editor is far from good at doing paths.
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A sample of things which I don't load in my repositories.
Each time when Bot will go for UDamage it will probably die - Where is the challenge then ? Happening of course if will not be skating between 2 nodes due to over-loaded spot for no reason.

Re: DM-ForbiddenTomb

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:42 am
by EvilGrins
All the names have been used.

At this point mappers should start grabbing names from ancient mythologies.

Re: DM-ForbiddenTomb

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:00 pm
by nogardilaref
Do you know how the problem of colliding names was solved decades ago?
Namespaces

While unlike modern stuff you do not have much of a "namespace" system in UEngine itself (other than the package names themselves, which should not be relied upon anyway due to IsA amongst other things), since ancient times (pun intended) people used a notation to define a namespace in how they name things in the first place.

It's very simple: choose a notation in how to name things, and use it consistently.
Then use a different notation to split up what is the actual name from the namespace.

Mappers and modders in UT do this for years, by simply adding their name or brand or some other thing as a prefix to their stuff:
DM-FoT-ChronoShift (FoT is the namespace and ChronoShift is the actual name of the map)
XC_Engine (XC = namespace, Engine = actual intended package name)
...

The general notation used across even different platforms and languages is using either camelCase or PascalCase, and then use underscores or hyphens to separate the names, as shown above.

In your case, you can keep the name ForbiddenTomb, but the actual map could be called instead:
DM-DiegoHoF-ForbiddenTomb (for example)

DiegoHoF can become the namespace for your stuff.
In other things the first names used as namespace is also called the "vendor".

None of those names are trademarked so no one can ask you to change it, all you should do is to simply make sure they never collide with existing stuff, not necessarily change the name altogether.
After all, there aren't many words in English to actually express what you're trying to pass across, compared to other languages at least, so it's easy to collide, and no one should ostracize you for it.

Re: DM-ForbiddenTomb

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:27 pm
by Hank
Sorry if i offend you but, your map is not complete in my opinion. Like paper said, there's too much open space... nowhere to take cover when needed. Pure crap, again sorry but maybe a little more practice mapping before posting/releasing them to the public. There's already enough crap out there, you need to get the community interested. :sleep:

Re: DM-ForbiddenTomb

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:16 am
by Diego_HoF
nogardilaref wrote:Do you know how the problem of colliding names was solved decades ago?
Namespaces

While unlike modern stuff you do not have much of a "namespace" system in UEngine itself (other than the package names themselves, which should not be relied upon anyway due to IsA amongst other things), since ancient times (pun intended) people used a notation to define a namespace in how they name things in the first place.

It's very simple: choose a notation in how to name things, and use it consistently.
Then use a different notation to split up what is the actual name from the namespace.

Mappers and modders in UT do this for years, by simply adding their name or brand or some other thing as a prefix to their stuff:
DM-FoT-ChronoShift (FoT is the namespace and ChronoShift is the actual name of the map)
XC_Engine (XC = namespace, Engine = actual intended package name)
...

The general notation used across even different platforms and languages is using either camelCase or PascalCase, and then use underscores or hyphens to separate the names, as shown above.

In your case, you can keep the name ForbiddenTomb, but the actual map could be called instead:
DM-DiegoHoF-ForbiddenTomb (for example)

DiegoHoF can become the namespace for your stuff.
In other things the first names used as namespace is also called the "vendor".

None of those names are trademarked so no one can ask you to change it, all you should do is to simply make sure they never collide with existing stuff, not necessarily change the name altogether.
After all, there aren't many words in English to actually express what you're trying to pass across, compared to other languages at least, so it's easy to collide, and no one should ostracize you for it.
I'm not good with names so i don't have a maespace yet and with my name is kinda hard(maybe DIE or DEG), for now i want to get experience with mapping and the feedback is good to have some kind of pattern to follow when making maps.
Hank wrote:Sorry if i offend you but, your map is not complete in my opinion. Like paper said, there's too much open space... nowhere to take cover when needed. Pure crap, again sorry but maybe a little more practice mapping before posting/releasing them to the public. There's already enough crap out there, you need to get the community interested. :sleep:
Well, this is the only way to know if you are doing good or bad, making others see for our mistakes, maybe later i can make a FIX or ][ version with better judgement and planning

Re: DM-ForbiddenTomb

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:58 am
by papercoffee
Diego_HoF wrote: Well, this is the only way to know if you are doing good or bad, making others see for our mistakes, maybe later i can make a FIX or ][ version with better judgement and planning
That's the spirit!
I recommend this thread for showing off beta map footage.

Re: DM-ForbiddenTomb

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:34 am
by Diego_HoF
I add the FIX Version to MyMaps Thread instead of here so go there to download it(My mind was done when posting this map :| )
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