I'm going to reply to you over at HoF since I don't want to derail this conversation. I'm leaving for work but I'll message you there when I get home tonight. They are having game night tonight so I'll be there anyway.
"You damn kids, back in my time we made the items, maps and games ourselves with an unwieldy engine using counter-intuitive crash-prone tools and we liked it so much we built communities around this which nowadays look like cults because they're quasi-parallel societies based on the same old games." -Hellkeeper