CTF-Blice (Release)

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Re: CTF-Blice (Release)

Post by sektor2111 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:30 pm

CloudZone destroys everything out of pawns, including decals, etc. While these actors quickly goes in bDeleteMe, accessing them in a moment will deliver a crash... especially OFF-Line... As explained already CloudZone is not for CTF mapping as AlternatePath is not for other games - and here is nothing like that even if that Actor is aiming CTFGame. In a recent AMC map when I did some fixes I had to quit using said CloudZone because it was causing only troubles and I replaced it with a normal zone but having setup for damaging - in a CloudZone there is nothing to do in boolean variables regarding to damage - code is executed by zone without anything else in account.

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Re: CTF-Blice (Release)

Post by Barbie » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:55 pm

FraGnBraG wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:21 pm
I recall cloudzones were not recommended for other reasons I think they would prevent spectators or something like that.
Yes, even spectators will be destroyed! :loool:
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Re: CTF-Blice (Release)

Post by Koolflux » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:41 pm

Beautiful map. I am simply jealous of your mapping skills. I wish I could make big maps like this!
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Re: CTF-Blice (Release)

Post by Feralidragon » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:54 pm

Thank you all, for the compliments and insights.

As for the CloudZone, I went with it on purpose, since I really wanted to "destroy" anything that entered the zone, and not exactly "damage" to death, namely any projectiles that entered it so they would look like they went away to oblivion and never hit anything, which is the main purpose of a CloudZone in the first place.

Of course, I am aware that it will destroy pretty much anything that enters it, that's why I extended the CloudZone into a MyCloudZone and MyLevel'd it with custom code to ignore my own actors for instance (otherwise the sun and other effects wouldn't work, since they were always getting destroyed).

I did forget about the flag dropping there though, or rather I incorrectly assumed that the home would just spawn a flag actor and that, if that was destroyed, it would spawn another one.
It's been many years since I looked into something like that, and I forgot that the flag home and the flag itself are the same.
This is something that will be fixed in the next release (this was an alpha after all). :)
Que wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:10 am
The problem here is that UCC freezes and even after leaving it running "Compressing" for hours on end it does not seem to compress these files.
I just tried it out myself, and I am also having issues compressing it.
It passes stage 0 (in about 3-4 seconds), but then it gets "stuck".
Although it's doing things (using a core thread fully, and using 110MB of RAM), but "ucc compress" is likely to be so inefficient that it probably struggles to compress a large map like this.

So I would advise to not bother too much about it, or perhaps to wait for what maybe Higor has to say, since he's the one who looked into that sort of thing the most iirc.
Furthermore, if the compression ends up taking hours or a day to complete, I wonder how much time it will take to decompress once downloaded...

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Re: CTF-Blice (Release)

Post by Que » Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:54 am

Also thought and wandered about the decompression of the map.. I wonder if this problem happens with CTF-FacePalm.. 🤔

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Re: CTF-Blice (Release)

Post by EvilGrins » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:59 am

Barbie wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:34 am
A typical problem of a CloudZone: it destroys everything that enters it
I can attest to that...
...CloudZone killed me too, and I was in spectator mode!
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Re: CTF-Blice (Release)

Post by Ubir4 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:19 pm

Thank's alot.

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Re: CTF-Blice (Release)

Post by papercoffee » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:23 pm

Maybe changing this map into a DOM version would be interesting.

(on DOM there is no flag drop) :mrgreen:

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