Kingdoms, CTF pathing request

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Kingdoms, CTF pathing request

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CTF-Kingdoms has pathing on it, but it's not very good. Bots never get to the other side, in defense opinions they don't so much wait as constantly run in place, and nothing really works that well.

This is not entirely surprising as the mapper apparently is not a big fan of bots, although it's a great map. Used to play it online a lot in the early 2000's. Once i had it I started editing it before I realized it wasn't that great for bots.

Download original version here:
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This map is fairly dark and it's got other issues too, but the pathing is the main thing.
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Re: Kingdoms, CTF pathing request

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Is the Kingdoms_Modified version any better as regards pathing? Then there's CTF-Kingdoms][ in which the maker has used the bases from Lava Giant, so it's not exactly the same as the other 'Kingdoms'.

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Re: Kingdoms, CTF pathing request

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OjitroC wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 5:37 pmIs the Kingdoms_Modified version any better as regards pathing?
I'm not sure, haven't tried that one.
OjitroC wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 5:37 pmThen there's CTF-Kingdoms][ in which the maker has used the bases from Lava Giant, so it's not exactly the same as the other 'Kingdoms'.
CTF-Kingdoms][ is a hybridization of CTF-Kingdoms & CTF-LavaGiant, CTF-Kingdoms][ is 1 of my favorite CTF maps and I've edited it a couple times, currently finishing up another edit of it.
OjitroC wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 5:37 pmA few things to note and address
Like I said, this map needs a lot of work.
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Re: Kingdoms, CTF pathing request

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Update on CTF-Kingdoms_Modified.unr - it seems to have the same number of pathnodes, etc and the pathing probably hasn't changed. The map does include a number of monsters - Queens, Titans, brutes, devilfish etc - this seems to be the major difference.
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Re: Kingdoms, CTF pathing request

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OjitroC wrote: Sun May 31, 2020 5:46 pm Update on CTF-Kingdoms_Modified.unr - it seems to have the same number of pathnodes, etc and the pathing probably hasn't changed. The map does include a number of monsters - Queens, Titans, brutes, devilfish etc - this seems to be the major difference.
Found a lot of CTF maps lately, mostly made from the folks at RoseBum, that have monsters on them. Been toying on edited those by replacing the monsters by whatever team side they're on with TeamMonsters.

Even this non-modified one in this post has monsters on it.
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Re: Kingdoms, CTF pathing request

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It looks like original DevPath it's supporting this map... hmm... maybe worth some party even if in this open area skilled bots at a big ping are not exactly a small quantity...
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