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Post by Pikko » Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:06 pm

RC1
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Re: DM-{VIP}]I[-Beta

Post by papercoffee » Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:34 am

First I was irritated ...but then I realized this is the Norwegian flag.

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Post by UnrealGGecko » Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:34 am

Where be download link?
Y u tease with new thread and not throw dl link?!

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Post by EvilGrins » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:42 am

UnrealGGecko wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:34 am
Where be download link?
Y u tease with new thread and not throw dl link?!
Late April Fool's prank just for you?
http://unreal-games.livejournal.com/
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Re: DM-{VIP}]I[-Beta

Post by Pikko » Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:55 am

:idea2:

It's for real, but not ready to d/l yet.
Just testing for now. :agree1:
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Re: DM-{VIP}]I[-Beta

Post by Gustavo6046 » Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:00 pm

Hey, mate! I know you want me to test it. Sorry I almost forgot about it lol, but let me know when it's ready! :D

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Re: DM-{VIP}]I[-Beta

Post by Pikko » Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:49 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:00 pm
Hey, mate! I know you want me to test it. Sorry I almost forgot about it lol, but let me know when it's ready! :D
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Hi, no problem. Hope to get the Map ready for testing this weekend :D
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Post by Gustavo6046 » Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:50 pm

Ah, alright. Oo, can't wait! :D

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Re: DM-{VIP}]I[-Beta

Post by Pikko » Tue May 11, 2021 11:00 am

Here is the Beta 2 version. Link in first post.
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Re: DM-{VIP}]I[-Beta

Post by OjitroC » Wed May 12, 2021 2:08 pm

Can you explain this bit from the readme in a little more detail "Various Graphic drivers, can make nois , so internal UT99-adjustments can/would be needed.."?

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Post by Pikko » Wed May 12, 2021 2:22 pm

Hi, just that i have tested the Map on 3 diff computers with differnt versions of UT and diff Graphic drivers, and that the outcome can differentiate. Thats why i write" Map is made in UED2.0-Version 436 (Direct3D)" - That works fine on my computer. For me it looks ok in 469 also, but some tweaking on your personal computer may be needed.-(testing diff drivers). Trying to explain in English as best I can, hopefully you understand what I mean. :)

What is your experience? :?:
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Re: DM-{VIP}]I[-Beta

Post by OjitroC » Wed May 12, 2021 3:40 pm

Thanks for that.

So far, I've played the map in 469b with D3D9 and it looks fine, no problems with that renderer. There's this is in the log
Log: The compressed mipmaps of texture DM-{VIP}]I[-Beta2.Floor.floor_mask_01 contained invalid data. We will try to use the uncompressed mipmaps instead.
which may (or may not) account for some difference in what is seen in different UT versions with different renderers.

A nice small DM map - plenty of movement and flow around the map. Overall, nice design and use of textures - I particularly like the combination of hi-tech areas with rough hewn rock-cut areas.

Personally, I'm not convinced that the yellow/black stripe textures should be used other than to indicate hazards, but that point's been made before and, of course, it's up to you. Since it's used both in slime and non-slime 'ponds' and the liquid colour is the same, it makes it a bit difficult to decide what is a hazard and what is not (the same with the one of the teleporters, where that stiped texture is used leading one to think that that teleporter is a hazard in some way). Of course, a Player soon finds out which areas of liquid are going to cause damage.

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Re: DM-{VIP}]I[-Beta

Post by Pikko » Wed May 12, 2021 4:11 pm

@OjitroC

Thanks for the feedback. Its useful for Mappers ->(non-pro),-like me :agree1: , to get different opinions. :D
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Re: DM-{VIP}]I[-Beta

Post by OjitroC » Wed May 12, 2021 6:56 pm

Tried it in 436 with EXUOpenGL and again no renderer problems.

One thing I noticed is that the recommended player count is 4 - 8 but there are only 6 PlayerStarts - so if there were 8 'players', two would get telefragged at the start (which is not good). Probably a player count of 4-6 is best?

Sektor's MapGarbage tool reports
VoidCheck: WaterZone1 looks placed into void.
VoidCheck: Dispatcher2 looks placed into void.
Looks to me like they are partly in the void - perhaps they need to be moved slightly higher?

Just one point on the design - I just wondered whether the ramp in front of the door is essential? That area is a little cluttered and there is not a lot of clear space to get to the door easily; the ramp leads to the gap where the lift comes up but there is no reason to go up the ramp to get the lift and the lift doesn't come up, so to go anywhere else once one is at the top of the ramp one has to jump over the gap to the walkway beyond; and if one takes the lift up, then one is unlikely to turn left as that leads back down, so one will almost certainly turn right (thus making the ramp redundant in a sense as a way to get to the higher level). Anyway just something to consider.
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Re: DM-{VIP}]I[-Beta

Post by Pikko » Wed May 12, 2021 7:29 pm

Yes, I have considered that ramp several times, (i like to have options to every entry/passage),so i think it must be there .. :agree1: we will see in the finale version. :o
- Typo on the Playerstarts in LevelInfo & Readme. It shall be 4-6 Players. :oops:
- ,-and yes. i will check my MapGarbage aswell.. :o
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