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Post by rjmno1 »

How to install s3 metall driver for unreal tournament 99?
i Normaly use opengl driver but the second cd contains the s3 tc package i just wanna see the results on the metall drivers.
Or is it to old for installing the s3 driver?
ut 99 comes with a windows that metall.dll is missing.
Ill hope you guys find a correct answer, and hopefuly the good drivers.
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hello,
over the years I've been saving other video drivers for historical purporses, including metal.
I don't remember now where I found these metal drivers, I only can tell you the ZIP package contains an auto extracting EXE that copies drivers in your UT99 System folder. It's better you take a look at the readme.txt file included to get more infos.
Once metal drivers are copied, you have to select another video driver from ingame preferences, the game restarts automatically and you have to select the metal drivers from the video drivers list.

Anyway, you can always find the video driver used by reading your UnrealTournament.ini file:
[Engine.Engine]
GameRenderDevice=xxxxx


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The Metal render is for an S3 graphics card....which you don't have.

If your problem is that the S3TC textures do not work, it is because you have not enabled it in the OpenGL options.
At the top of the site is the link Tweak Your UT Graphics To The Maximum! this will guide you through updating to the fixed GL renderers and enabling the various features.

Warning some of the textures on CD2 are borked, so you should use the alternative S3TC textures from UTTextures
http://www.uttexture.com/UT/Website/Pro ... roject.htm
http://www.uttexture.com/UT/Website/Dow ... xtures.htm
Choose the size that fits your GFX card, and get the "Master files" that come as big zips.
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thanks for the fast reaction.
I did installed the savage drivers but the drivers are missing a file called nd.dll wich is not by the package sadly.
I will hope i will get this driver te work otherwise just buy a s3 videocard.
I,m trying right now the other drivers from chrome and s3 the so called chrome drivers.
The program just say that i not have the right vidcard.
I saw some movies about these drivers and it look just awsome and even bether then opengl.
I,m sure there is a method to install these drivers on a ut 99 game but i just dont know howto do that.
my search will go on till i find the good driver.
Thanks for the fast respons. :gj:

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UTPe wrote:hello,
over the years I've been saving other video drivers for historical purporses, including metal.
I don't remember now where I found these metal drivers, I only can tell you the ZIP package contains an auto extracting EXE that copies drivers in your UT99 System folder. It's better you take a look at the readme.txt file included to get more infos.
Once metal drivers are copied, you have to select another video driver from ingame preferences, the game restarts automatically and you have to select the metal drivers from the video drivers list.

Anyway, you can always find the video driver used by reading your UnrealTournament.ini file:
[Engine.Engine]
GameRenderDevice=xxxxx


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That driver was found on a savage 2000 graphic card.The drivers that comes with the package is the same driver you post here.
But indeed i think dr flay is right, maby you must own a s3 videocard for fully function of the drivers.
The savage 2000 graphic driver was his time far more ahead and it was a highend videocard.
And the best of that time.

Now mine ut 99 is running on a glide driver who,s imulating the voodoo drivers from that time.
if you will to install this driver you must first install the opengl driver.
And over that driver you must install the glide driver.
The whole package emulates the voodoo 2 drivers. :tu:
The drivers are looking good ,the colors are more warm the whole game is a bit darker in mine opinion.
The metall drivers in min opinion is the best api they made for ut en maby unreal also.




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Ah I think you are missing the point.
S3 drivers are only for an S3 card and the metal renderer.
You have an nVidia which works with nVidia drivers and best the OpenGL renderer.

Yes S3TC compression was invented by S3, but all modern cards use it as standard.

The video you link is comparing Software Vs Glide, so does not show anything useful in 2014.
Many early maps were made on PCs with Voodoo chips and so look better with Glide (a map made in GL will look better in GL)
:noidea Software Vs anything, well then anything is better (Software is the one you use if the others are broken).

Many comparisons are made with the original bugged/beta OpenGL renderer.
Solution: get the new fixed renderer.

Many comparisons are made between renderers, without enabling the features their card supports.

The original v436 renderers (except software) can use the textures on CD2.
You have to enable it first.
They come set in basic mode so they will work on any Windows 9x PC.
See this thread to use S3TC textures :arrow: https://www.ut99.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=373
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Dr.Flay wrote:Ah I think you are missing the point.
S3 drivers are only for an S3 card and the metal renderer.
You have an nVidia which works with nVidia drivers and best the OpenGL renderer.

Yes S3TC compression was invented by S3, but all modern cards use it as standard.

The video you link is comparing Software Vs Glide, so does not show anything useful in 2014.
Many early maps were made on PCs with Voodoo chips and so look better with Glide (a map made in GL will look better in GL)
:noidea Software Vs anything, well then anything is better (Software is the one you use if the others are broken).

Many comparisons are made with the original bugged/beta OpenGL renderer.
Solution: get the new fixed renderer.

Many comparisons are made between renderers, without enabling the features their card supports.

The original v436 renderers (except software) can use the textures on CD2.
You have to enable it first.
They come set in basic mode so they will work on any Windows 9x PC.
See this thread to use S3TC textures :arrow: https://www.ut99.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=373

I did use your guide and the graphics are looking very good now also did use the s3 fix who patched the textures.
i thought that the older drivers and videocards where bether for running ut 99 or unreal.
And i did not know that i can run all drivers with s3tc only opengl i thought.
looks realy amazing now thanks guys :gj:
btw i have ut 99 running on windows 8.0.
Is there also s3tc textures for unreal 1?

edit 12-10-2014

Now downloading ut textures highend and downloading amped oldskool. :)
All textures are installed now and some of them overwriten by those downloadable larger textures.
cityintro looks awsome.
Some textures remaims the same.
Ill did tweak some renderers and now i,m playing with opengl with the highend textures.

Thanks for the advice dr flay. :help:
NOTE: The S3 fix is only for the textures from CD2. The newer hi-res textures from http://www.UTTextures.com do not need the fix (you can use them as a fix).
Yes i did already installed these s3tc package from cd2 ut goty 2000.


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rjmno1 wrote: I did use your guide and the graphics are looking very good now also did use the s3 fix who patched the textures.
NOTE: The S3 fix is only for the textures from CD2. The newer hi-res textures from http://www.UTTextures.com do not need the fix (you can use them as a fix).
rjmno1 wrote:i thought that the older drivers and videocards where bether for running ut 99 or unreal.
And i did not know that i can run all drivers with s3tc only opengl i thought.
As I said, some maps look better with another renderer because the author used it. The lighting and colours can vary because of that.
It may have just been enabled by default in the GL renderer (like I said, many people never check the settings).
The old renderers are limited to small textures, but the new OpenGL, D3D8, 9, and 10 can use huge 4096x4096 textures (possibly bigger).
I recommend you try the "High End" textures first, then upgrade to "Extreme End" if you are happy with the performance. Your GFX card has more than enough RAM.
http://www.oldunreal.com/textures.html
rjmno1 wrote:looks realy amazing now thanks guys :gj:
btw i have ut 99 running on windows 8.0.
Is there also s3tc textures for unreal 1?
:tu: Yes, but you need to update to Unreal 227
https://www.ut99.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5540
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Most members here only use English as a second language. You may even find someone here that speaks your language, and can explain anything you have difficulty with.
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Dr.Flay wrote:Ah I think you are missing the point.
S3 drivers are only for an S3 card and the metal renderer.
You have an nVidia which works with nVidia drivers and best the OpenGL renderer.

Yes S3TC compression was invented by S3, but all modern cards use it as standard.

The video you link is comparing Software Vs Glide, so does not show anything useful in 2014.
Many early maps were made on PCs with Voodoo chips and so look better with Glide (a map made in GL will look better in GL)
:noidea Software Vs anything, well then anything is better (Software is the one you use if the others are broken).

Many comparisons are made with the original bugged/beta OpenGL renderer.
Solution: get the new fixed renderer.

Many comparisons are made between renderers, without enabling the features their card supports.

The original v436 renderers (except software) can use the textures on CD2.
You have to enable it first.
They come set in basic mode so they will work on any Windows 9x PC.
See this thread to use S3TC textures :arrow: https://www.ut99.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=373
well i did download the higend textures.
The only sad thing is that i canot use the voodoo drivers with the glide wrapper.
The vidcard freezes for 1 second and after that it is normaly playable.
But never the less i will use opengl with highend mine computer can handle the graphics and looks realy awsume.
The older drivers canot handle the the highend graphics textures.
downloaded and Installed the bugy tnt 2 drivers and set in opengl section in ut.ini usetnt=true.
Its only for nvidia cards i think neverthe less its made by nvidia.
mine question:Are there some other drivers i can install under opengl or other standalone drivers?

as in metal drivers ut 99 looks like this:




And the opengl settings drivers i did tweak also with the settings from dr flay examples.
Becous of the backwarts compatibility of the new and older vidcards i just decided to install only the high compressed textures from the Original ut 99 cd, the second cd in this case becaus i can use then the glide-wrapper who simulates the voodoo drivers open gl ofcourse, and the d3d9 r 13 drivers.
All files and drivers settings thanks to the ut 99 comunity ut99.org and ofcourse dr flay with his turtuals and settings.
Also installed omp o2 drivers causing some special effects containing the audio settings.
Caus having not the soundblaster card all settings set to 2.0 audio because i have no separate bass only 2 speakers.

edit:opengl 73 setting set as nvidia vidcard:
also installed the tnt2 drivers from nvidia windows 2000 or windows 95/98 drivers.

drivers download locations:
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a must have is the tnt2 em64 drivers from nvidia but i can not find a proper download location for those drivers windows 2000 or windows xp.
Brings more warm collors to your ut 99 and maby unreal also.
setting edit use3dfx=true in ut99.ini settings

opengl 37 ut99.ini settings:
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[OpenGLDrv.OpenGLRenderDevice]
ZRangeHack=True
NoAATiles=True
NumAASamples=4 // Level of anti-aliasing, valid values are 0, 2, 4 and 8.
UseAA=True //Enable anti-aliasing.
MaskedTextureHack=True
SmoothMaskedTextures=False
SceneNodeHack=True
FrameRateLimit=62 // Do not go over 100 or you’ll get some inconstant game speeds.
SwapInterval=0 // 0 means Vsync off, 1 means Vsync on (will cause mouse imput lag).
UseFragmentProgram=True
UseMultiDrawArrays=True
TexDXT1ToDXT3=False
DynamicTexIdRecycleLevel=100
CacheStaticMaps=True
UseTexPool=True
UseTexIdPool=True
UseSSE2=True
UseSSE=True
BufferTileQuads=True
SinglePassDetail=False
SinglePassFog=True
ColorizeDetailTextures=False
DetailClipping=False
DetailMax=2
RefreshRate=60 // Set maximum refresh rate your display supports.
MaxTMUnits=0
NoFiltering=False
MaxAnisotropy=16 // Level of anisotrophic filtering.
Use16BitTextures=False
UseS3TC=True // Enable higher resolution S3TC textures.
UseAlphaPalette=True
UseTrilinear=True
UsePrecache=True
ShareLists=False
UsePalette=True
UseMultiTexture=True
UseBGRATextures=True
UseZTrick=False
MaxLogTextureSize=12
MinLogTextureSize=0
OneXBlending=False
GammaCorrectScreenshots=False
GammaOffsetBlue=0.000000
GammaOffsetGreen=0.000000
GammaOffsetRed=0.000000
GammaOffset=0.000000
LODBias=-1.000000 // Use negative values to sharpen textures, positive to blur them.
DetailTextures=True
DescFlags=0
Description=nvidia 630gt// Add your GPU description if you want to.
HighDetailActors=True
Coronas=True
ShinySurfaces=True
VolumetricLighting=True
ZRangeHack=True
NoAATiles=True
NumAASamples=4
UseAA=True
MaskedTextureHack=True
SmoothMaskedTextures=False
SceneNodeHack=True
FrameRateLimit=62
SwapInterval=0
UseFragmentProgram=True
UseMultiDrawArrays=True
TexDXT1ToDXT3=true
DynamicTexIdRecycleLevel=100
CacheStaticMaps=True
UseTexPool=True
UseTexIdPool=True
UseSSE2=True
UseSSE=True
BufferTileQuads=True
SinglePassDetail=False
SinglePassFog=True
ColorizeDetailTextures=False
DetailClipping=False
DetailMax=2
RefreshRate=0
MaxTMUnits=0
NoFiltering=False
MaxAnisotropy=16
Use16BitTextures=False
UseS3TC=True
UseAlphaPalette=True
UseTrilinear=True
UsePrecache=True
ShareLists=False
UsePalette=True
UseMultiTexture=True
UseBGRATextures=True
UseZTrick=False
MaxLogTextureSize=12
MinLogTextureSize=0
OneXBlending=False
GammaCorrectScreenshots=False
GammaOffsetBlue=0.000000
GammaOffsetGreen=0.000000
GammaOffsetRed=0.000000
GammaOffset=0.000000
LODBias=-2.000000
DetailTextures=True
DescFlags=0
Description=
HighDetailActors=True
Coronas=True
ShinySurfaces=True
VolumetricLighting=True
TruFormMinVertices=0
TruFormTessellation=3
UseTruForm=False
AAFilterHint=0
RequestHighResolutionZ=True
UseVertexProgram=False
UseCVA=False
BufferClippedActorTris=True
UseDetailAlpha=True
NoMaskedS3TC=False
UseTNT=True
AutoGenerateMipmaps=False
AlwaysMipmap=true
MaxLogTextureSize=13
MinLogTextureSize=2
MaxLogUOverV=13
MaxLogVOverU=13
so oldsckool settings: opengl37 driver with glidewrapper voodoo enabled and tnt em64 drivers with tnt enabled and s3tc textures enabled.
fast setting: opengl37 driver with forceware drivers and s3tc textures enabled.
mid high settings: opengl drivers version 37 with mid high textures from retexture program.
ultra high end: opengl driver version 37 with ultra highend textures from oldunreal or similar website .

install notes textures and drivers:
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[/url]http://www.uttexture.com/UT/Website/Art ... tionUT.htm[/url]

glide wrapper download

http://www.uttexture.com/UT/Website/Dow ... erMore.htm

older drivers with ut 99 suport link down?.

http://www.kimarco.nl/viper2/


forceware drivers for windows 7 8 64 and 32 bit:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/ search forceware drivers.

looks very good.


For more install guides please goto dr. flay post.
btw all running now on windows 8.1.
I did a litle test on windows 10 ut99 runns well on it and it looks great, in the meantime format c: again and running windows 8.1 again and all looks good.
upgraded from 8.0 to 8.1. :tu:

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I'm not sure English is your problem! :)

Get the latest drivers for your graphics card, follow the instructions that Flay linked to and frag on! Metal and Glide looked good but they are gone; the wrappers may work, but IMO, not well (yes, I have played with the wrappers and found them to be more problematic/bother than they are worth).

OGL, again IMO, looks pretty close to how it used to but you need to tweak it (again, all found in the thread Flay linked to).
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The so called catalist drivers from diamond multimedia you can also install to an nvidia vidcard.
If you install the drivers ut99 looks also good.
i have installed those drivers over the forceware drivers from major geeks .With opengl 37.
And they work.Also with s3tc enabled.
Btw i did vind the old savage 2000 drivers for ut 99 but i canot installed them correctly.
Same drivers who utpe has some of the files are missing, but it is a good thing to save them because in the Original website those drivers are eol so called end of life.You canot download them again.
It will be a good project to save all ut 99 drivers on one website.
To keep it all together. :D
I did install the windows 7 /8.1 drivers x64 and they runs just fine for me.
I did pik a driver from a random videocard (a fast one).
Radeon r 9 series and they function properly. :rock:
Also use3dfx=true and usetnt=true in mine opengl settings.
Framerate settings beneath the 100.i did set them to 99.
opengl wins the match for me.
Carbon you are right opengl has the best settings.
In combination with the forceware drivers , you have a fast and stable ut 99 running.
All this is running on the directx 11.2 wich are the latest drivers for windows 8.1.
some tweaks installed for mine msi vidcard i can tweak the core of the gpu now and ofcourse the memmory settings. :)
offtopic:this has nothing todo with the metal driver?

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I and many others have these old drivers, but the hardware has become obsolete. It is interesting to run UT on my S3 8MB, but hardly practical.
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Carbon wrote:I and many others have these old drivers, but the hardware has become obsolete. It is interesting to run UT on my S3 8MB, but hardly practical.
buy yourself a new computer with a new videocard and the limitations are gone.
If you wanna have something special ,it all cost money.
vidcard type nvidia because all drivers works on it. :tu:
Older drivers just like yourself said al are all now eol.
It depens on wich computer you have maby you can do a upgrade also.new processor and videocard.
It also depens on wich motherboard you have.
A simple computer system with Pentium 4 will be ok for running ut 99 onit.
You can buy also a second hand computer, it don't have tobe a highend system.


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My S3 card is in my vintage system; a Win95/98 computer which I maintain for a hobby; my funky retro machine. My normal system is just fine, thanks.
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Carbon wrote:My S3 card is in my vintage system; a Win95/98 computer which I maintain for a hobby; my funky retro machine. My normal system is just fine, thanks.
Ooh was planning for miself also a vintage system, i was recently on a website for older systems for about 100 or 200 euro i can buy a system whos is coming from the year 2000.Maby this years or next ill hope i will have a vintage system,but i was thinking on a voodoo addon card maby s3 vidcard.
This older system must have atleast a old p3 processor init with atleast 1 gb intern memmory.
Mine os will be windows 2000 or windows xp,not 98 or me because its to buggy for me.
i was thinking on a Pentium 3 or pentium 4 system from ibm.
And then 2 videocards from 3dfx voodoo 2 in sli 2 times 16 mb.
videocard slot pci or at least agp. :?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EipIq8nnwas

that voodoo 5 card is also nice to have 64 mb!

http://www.computeroutlet.nl/

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Vintage system:

P4T533 (not "C" - nice board!)
512MB 32 bit Samsung RDRAM
P3 800E
S3 Trio 8MB / GeForce 2 MX 16MB / GeForce 3 32MB (alternates)
Soundblaster Live!
15GB Quantum Fireball HDD (Crap: many other alternates with different installs of Win 95, 98, 98SE)
21" Samsung CRT
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