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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now FREE

Postby Hellkeeper » Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:33 am

Red_Fist wrote:One of the main things for UDK or a new editor, that gets me, is how you can now just shove an add brush in open space. I think that was the way Quake1 was.


Yep, additive CSG instead of subtractive CSG. You start with an empty void instead of a void of solid matter. Personally, the subtractive system got me into map-editing, but it seems the general consensus is more in favour of additive engines.

The additive system has been a possibility in Unreal 227 for several years now too :D
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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now FREE

Postby papercoffee » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:03 pm

Hellkeeper wrote:
Red_Fist wrote:One of the main things for UDK or a new editor, that gets me, is how you can now just shove an add brush in open space. I think that was the way Quake1 was.


Yep, additive CSG instead of subtractive CSG. You start with an empty void instead of a void of solid matter. Personally, the subtractive system got me into map-editing, but it seems the general consensus is more in favour of additive engines.

The additive system has been a possibility in Unreal 227 for several years now too :D

I loved how in Worldcraft for Quake and Half-Life a mapper could turn every surface into a sky projection (fake backdrop is not the same) after setting an sky-entity (actors in Worldcraft) every sky projection would also turn into a light emitter. You got instant daylight projections without a light-source-actor. You could change the angle of the sunlight and colour and it got projected all over your map.
...this is for me the most sadly missed feature in UEd.

I hope something similar is available for the new UEngine.
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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now FREE

Postby Hellkeeper » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:37 pm

papercoffee wrote:
Hellkeeper wrote:I loved how in Worldcraft for Quake and Half-Life a mapper could turn every surface into a sky projection (fake backdrop is not the same) after setting an sky-entity (actors in Worldcraft) every sky projection would also turn into a light emitter. You got instant daylight projections without a light-source-actor. You could change the angle of the sunlight and colour and it got projected all over your map.
...this is for me the most sadly missed feature in UEd.

I hope something similar is available for the new UEngine.


Sunlights essentially do this. They're not in UT unfortunately, but in U227 and all other Unreal games they allow you to finely control the light received from all fake backdrops.

Also, I don't remember exactly how the sky texture worked in Quake and Half-Life, but I seem to remember it was significantly less intuitive and easy than the UT way of physically creating a proper sky-box in the level.

I started mapping with WorldCraft, and though it took a while to get used to it, I found UnrealEd to be a much, much better editor. Other building tools (BSP, Radiant, etc.) never quite made me feel at home like UnrealEd did. Except QuArK, maybe, but QuArK makes you feel like you're at home with 12 people on shrooms, it's weird.
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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now FREE

Postby rjmno1 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:32 pm

Its good news for all unreal and ut 4 editors out there.
Also good news for the mod makers for ut4, ill hope they make a mod in ut4 from ut99.
So we can frag there ut 99 also.
Never did had a clue howto edit those maps and files and skins.
Its good news for the ut99 freaks also.
Btw little offtopic i did try the new ut4 alpha ,and it looks ugly and not so good as ut 99.
Maby they have to edit the textures also it looks yucky when all the maps who are online now remeans the same.
One good thing i did saw its the look and feel from ut 99, the bots looks and move the same as ut99.
Ill hope they are still not done with editing those textures. :thudown:
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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now FREE

Postby memsys » Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:11 pm

I hope you are aware that most maps are currently bare BSP to have something playable because creating a good set of assets takes time and a LOT of work. take a look at DM-Outpost23 that is one of the "finished" maps and I think you would agree that it looks really good.
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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now FREE

Postby Wises » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:06 am

it looks ugly because they are working on movement dynamics (which are almost 99%)
after this they will progress to the next stage in development.
in the end the graphics / sound / game will be amazing :)
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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now FREE

Postby de1337ed » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:58 am

Try out Tesseract:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fOpHRrOBJQ
Fancy graphics, nice editor (Cube engine games have the best editor), works on old hardware (tested on CPU C2D E5700 @ 4GHz, 2GB DDR2 RAM, VGA Geforce 7950GX2 1GB).

Old servers are quite cheap if you need an upgrade, just be sure to get a motherboard with a PCI Express x16 slot.
Socket F or Socket G34 Opterons with an Asus motherboard (12 to 48 cores per machine!), 16GB DDR2 ECC RAM or more, and a Radeon 5970 can be bought for under 200 dollars on Ebay. Use Kubuntu 15.04 64 bit as the operating system (with WINE for Windows games), as UE4 runs on Linux.
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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now FREE

Postby Wises » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:48 pm

@Deleted; I have seen this before and must say that it looks really good .. is it free to try or opensource by chance?
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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now FREE

Postby de1337ed » Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:50 pm

It's both free and open source. Its graphic features are inexpensive, so it runs even on Intel integrated graphic cards.
Tesseract shooter game: http://tesseract.gg/
Tesseract game SDK: https://octaforge.org/
Tesseract RPG: https://github.com/Hirato/lamiae

Other Cube engine games (also FOSS) :
Cube 2 Sauerbraten, Red Eclipse, Cube 1, AssaultCube: http://cubeengine.com/
Platinum Arts Sandbox: http://www.sandboxgamemaker.com/
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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now FREE

Postby Wises » Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:06 pm

nice :) will look into it when I get time
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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now FREE

Postby de1337ed » Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:48 pm

It would be interesting to see UT99 ported to Tesseract. Mainly because of lower hardware requirements than UE4 and the map editor.
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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now FREE

Postby Dr.Flay » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:55 am

Nice to see Octaforge get a mention here :D
It is what the full version of Chaos is being made with and built for ;)

There is more interest growing in the porting of old maps, as the collection grows and more people are having a go.
https://forums.unrealtournament.com/sho ... d-2k4-Maps

1 thing I can suggest for anyone installing UT4, is to set the "Epic Games" folder as compressed in Windows.
There is no optimisation at this point, so my install dropped from 6.5GB to 3.5GB !
Oh, and it needed a good defrag as there is a solid *.pak file which is most of the install.
When updating UT4, it will keep the previous pak file, so each update will eat large chunks of drive space. You can easily delete these manually.
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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now FREE

Postby rjmno1 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:16 pm

Well yesterday i did received a update.
I dont know how big the file is.
Maby updates from the textures, tonight ill take closer look. :rock:
downloading unrealed 4.57 right now.
Its to complex for me, i did never made a map.
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https://forums.unrealtournament.com/showthread.php?6733-Finished-BSP-ports-from-UT99-and-2k4-Maps
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yes ut 99 maps please.

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The requested URL /sho ... d-2k4-Maps was not found on this server.

ok edit papercofee :link fixed

thanks for the real link dr flay. :loool:
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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now FREE

Postby papercoffee » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:25 am

@rjmno
Your link doesn't work...
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The requested URL /sho ... d-2k4-Maps was not found on this server.
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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now FREE

Postby rjmno1 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:15 pm

papercoffee wrote:@rjmno
Your link doesn't work...
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The requested URL /sho ... d-2k4-Maps was not found on this server.

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It was not mine link but dr flay,s link. :rock:
i did copie the link from this forum wich was incorrect.
I just did copied dr flay link from the taskbar the link does work now.
Thanks for the reminder papercoffee. :highfive:

best regardz:rjmno1
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