To Chamberly
Chamberly wrote:I simply have him blocked because of the constant cross reference between different issue trackers, which can make it confusing and not staying on the topic can make taking care of issues more troublesome.
I didn't even realised my cross-references were an issue for you,
because you simply didn't inform me about that fact,
I spent 5 years on github already (on various nicks),
created hundreds of issues,
posted hundreds of comments,
and made tens of cross-references,
and my cross-references never were an issue for anybody except you,
but if you would just ask me, instead of silently blocking,
that in this particular issue tracker,
you would like to not see less-important cross-references from me,
it would be not a problem for me to avoid them or code-tag them,
but no, you simply blocked me instead,
what blocked not only my cross-references,
but also possibility to reply in your issues,
what ruins collaboration,
sure, perhaps for you my cross-references ruin collaboration as well,
but not as much as blocking an user and preventing him from posting in you issues,
simply silently blocking an user,
without talking to him first and asking to avoid or to code-tag cross-references,
is not a polite way collaboration problems should be solved,
Chamberly wrote:But yes just as FD pointed out, calling out names and cussing out to other is also not a polite way to discuss about things in beta-testing class manner. Sadly on Github it doesn't hide the user and their posts but it'd be helpful if it did.
Sure, what's your polite way then?
The one, when you block an user instead of to talk to him first, as I mentioned above?
Or a polite hypocrisy way, to start an off-topic like SeriousBuggie,
then when I reply to his off-topic,
to admonish me, in a rude way,
to not off-topic in reply to his own off-topic?
It seems you and FD like to talk about a polite way the things should be done,
yet yourselves do the opposite.
And then you play a victim,
and FD plays your advocate role.
To Feralidragon
Calm down, are you Chamberly's advocate? Wow...you replied to me with a long post full of hard things about me which I don't agree, so I have a right to reply to it to defend myself.
It seems you intentionally took my comment out of the context and quoted only a "bad" part to show how "bad" I am,
you intentionally missed part which explain why I replied in such tone, let's quote the missing part then:
gargul2 wrote:
And who started Off-TOpic?
Off-topic:
For me this XOpenGL too bugged so even never test or use it.
So I just continued it, and now you bitching me? Bye hypocrite.
Don't you think that if someone starts off-topic and someone else continues it, then the one who started should not reprimand the other about off-topic, especially in a rude way? It's just stupid and annoying and is called a hypocrisy, and such hypocrisy is toxic behaviour, and toxic behaviour deserves toxic replies.
Also don't you think that if you take only a part of my comment out of the context you are unfair? It's called trolling, and it's another toxic behaviour example.
Feralidragon wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:18 pm
https://github.com/OldUnreal/UnrealTour ... -699670925
gargul2 wrote:LOL. Comon. Good joke. Perhaps you didn't read the whole thread...
To not mention that while you do have a point there of testing higher resolutions and small fonts being barely visible in this specific issue, the fact is that the game is designed and has to maintain proper support for lower resolutions regardless of what you think or feel about it.
So rather than ranting all over the place on how 1920x1080 resolution is the most common one nowadays, maybe you should restrict yourself to show (not tell) the problem at 1920x1080 and request for something to be done for higher resolutions.
And rather than treat people badly, maybe you should treat them with the same respect they have shown towards you.
There is nothing bad in this comment, such weird settings res 800x600 & 400 FPS just made me laugh, because they are very uncommon, which I proved by providing Steam stats, not by "what I think or feel about it", that's all, what's your problem with this comment?
Feralidragon wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:18 pm
Judging by your own comments thus far there, it seems to me that you were the only toxic element yourself there, and you're just projecting that denomination onto someone else.
Just as 2 examples, and from the same github issue, with the former being reply to someone who has been in fact contributing a LOT of reports and tools for the patch, and with the latter being a reply to Anth no less, the actual lead programmer for this patch and whom perhaps may understand a bit better what he's talking about than you.
It doesn't seem so as both of your examples failed.
I've explained my first comment you quoted and proved it was a SeriousBuggie's behaviour which deserved hard reply.
I've explained my second comment you quoted as well and proved there is nothing bad in it and it was just an adequate reaction to weird screenshoots.
Feralidragon wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:18 pm
That is a prime example of toxic behavior, so either a warning or a ban would be expected eventually as you kept relentlessly going off-topic and treat people like shit.
Not true, as above, your examples failed, I proved the off-topic was started by SeriousBuggie and in the second case it was provoked by Chamberly weird screenshoots.
Furthermore I can parody you, by saying that the prime example of toxic behaviour are users/admins who agressiviely block (like Chamberly) or ban (like you) other users for nothing or for something they are unable to defend against by a typical way it's being done: by argumentation, the moment they lose their argumentation, they are pressing these pathetic block / ban (also remove, lock etc.) buttons. Furthermore, unlike them, I don't agressiviely do toxic things: I don't hit ban / block / remove / lock buttons, I prefer replying by a comment and providing argumentation and this is an example of my non-toxic behaviour compared to your toxic.
Feralidragon wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:18 pm
The fact that you linked that specific comment which the first 2 lines go like this:
gargul2 wrote:Sure, don't post screenshoots with some crappy weird screen settings then, please.
An off-topic would not even begin then...
all the while trying to play the victim is pretty telling, this being the very definition of being toxic, as you put it.
Nope, just defended myself by a similiar argument, once then, he was unable to provide a new argument, so he blocked me like a child who had taken their lollipop. That is what is toxic, a prime example of toxicity and unability to win by argumentation, also a very childish behaviour.
Feralidragon wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:18 pm
with the former being reply to someone who has been in fact contributing a LOT of reports and tools for the patch,
Me too is a a guy who contribute much to various open source projects on the whole github, bugzilla and many other open soruce trackers FYI, I have others nicks as well, just because I'm not so long in ut99 it doesn't mean I'm not long in other open source projects, I spent enought time in internet to actually know how much toxicity is here, I defend against it.
Feralidragon wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:18 pm
And rather than treat people badly, maybe you should treat them with the same respect they have shown towards you.
That's exactly what I do, I treat them like they treat me... Oh wait, no, actually I treat them better than they treat me: I prefer to prove right by discussion and argumentation rather than by childish and toxic behaviour like pressing block or ban buttons, furthermore I don't paste screenshoots with weird settings, and I don't pour out hypocrisy by stupid rude replies like "stop off-topic" if it's me who started the off-topic, to a guy who just replied to my off-topic. Also you can put 100 times word "toxic" in your elaboration about toxicity and it still won't make me the one who is toxic. Also unlike you, I don't agressiviely call admins on you to ban you, like you did to me, I'm definately not such kind of person. These who agressiviely press ban / block / lock / remove / cenzorship buttons are the most toxic in the internet.
Try to guess what will happen now? I did nothing wrong, just replied to your long comment, defending myself, and now your friend moderator / admin will come and agressiviely hit these pathetic ban / remove / lock / block buttons, for no reason. How do I know this? I meet such toxic admins / users the whole time...they are the toxic ones, they abuse pr essing ban / block/ lock / remove buttons like gods....perhaps this time it will not be case...
As seen, my reply is as long as your failed elaboration about toxicity, otherwise I would not put so long reply.
I'm not gonna continue our discussion unless you reply to me again...it's your choice whether to continue our conversation,
I posted a short comment, you replied with a long elaboration, so I did.