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UTDM-monster and Patch 469 discussion

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Well, that's done...
https://unreal-games.livejournal.com/200259.html
...now just need to attach a link for that to each UTDM-monster team map I've edited.
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EvilGrins wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:44 pm Well, that's done...
https://unreal-games.livejournal.com/200259.html
...now just need to attach a link for that to each UTDM-monster team map I've edited.
I'm sure you will be pleased to know that this issue is fixed in 469dRC2 - tested on your edits of WaterGiant and Ramshot - the Blue SkaarjBerserker and Titan now attack the Red player - not tested with bots but assume the same thing happens. The Red Berserker/Titan/Warlord have always attacked the Blue player and still do - again confirmed through a test run in Ramshot with me on Blue.
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Re: Screenshots

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OjitroC wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:28 pm
EvilGrins wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:44 pm Well, that's done...
https://unreal-games.livejournal.com/200259.html
...now just need to attach a link for that to each UTDM-monster team map I've edited.
I'm sure you will be pleased to know that this issue is fixed in 469dRC2 - tested on your edits of WaterGiant and Ramshot - the Blue SkaarjBerserker and Titan now attack the Red player - not tested with bots but assume the same thing happens. The Red Berserker/Titan/Warlord have always attacked the Blue player and still do - again confirmed through a test run in Ramshot with me on Blue.
Very pleased, though the timing is wonky!

Have you tested it on a CTF4 map yet?
https://unreal-games.livejournal.com/171208.html
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EvilGrins wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:39 am Have you tested it on a CTF4 map yet?
I haven't though, since the 'fix' seems to have been to amend the code of ScriptedPawn (reverting back to the 436 code but with an option to disable the fix where desired), there would appear to be no intrinsic reason why everything should not function OK in multi-team CTF maps (you could get 469d and try it for yourself :P).
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OjitroC wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:28 pmyou could get 469d and try it for yourself
While I am giddy about this glitch being fixed, they still haven't finalized the new patch yet.

I can wait.
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Re: Screenshots

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EvilGrins wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:20 pm
OjitroC wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:28 pmyou could get 469d and try it for yourself
While I am giddy about this glitch being fixed, they still haven't finalized the new patch yet.

I can wait.
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Re: Screenshots

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EvilGrins wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:20 pm
OjitroC wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:28 pmyou could get 469d and try it for yourself
While I am giddy about this glitch being fixed, they still haven't finalized the new patch yet.

I can wait.
Keep in mind: RC exists exactly for check possible issues before there appear badge release. When there appear badge release, window of opportunity will be closed.
And any your complains, corrections and reports, can be take in account only for next release, which basically mean - year+ after.

And yea. it is big slap in face, after you annoy all (in complete unrelated topics) with fix your issue, not goes test it:
EvilGrins wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:20 pm Until that glitch is fixed in 469, I'm not getting it.
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anth wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:00 pm I am deeply offended by your attitude
And I do not blame you. It is one thing to decide not to use the patch, cause that is what freedom is for. It is another to keep whining even after developers managed to address your "issue", when so many others have way higher priority. :wth:
Someone said, I do not remember now who, but I truly believe in it. There are two kinds of people in the world. Those who are part of the solution. And those who are part of the problem. You decide where you want to be.
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EvilGrins wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:20 pm
OjitroC wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:28 pmyou could get 469d and try it for yourself
While I am giddy about this glitch being fixed, they still haven't finalized the new patch yet.

I can wait.
Since what you describe as a 'glitch' actually fixed what the devs consider to be (for want of a better phrase) 'bad code' in 436, they have now had to revert to that 'bad code' (and do other changes in the code of ScriptedPawn) SOLELY to address the issue with the UTDM pawns that you raised and so it is discourteous not to install 469d and test out the UTDM pawns (and the rest of the patch) for yourself.

I can understand that you may be apprehensive about potential bugs but personally I have found few and none that have had much impact on my enjoyment of the game nor of using the Editor. The number of bugs have reduced over time and now seem mainly to be things that most players and users will seldom, if ever come across (especially if one has a mainstream/common OS). All this must, of course, be set alongside the significant performance and other improvements in many areas/facets of the game and of the Editor that the patch offers.
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anth wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:00 pmI am deeply offended by your attitude
Would you like a cookie?
Buggie wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:08 pmit is big slap in face, after you annoy all (in complete unrelated topics) with fix your issue, not goes test it:
There's no rush, and the patch that came out prior to 469 I didn't get for a very long time until after it was released.

Heck, MonsterHunt has been patched & upgraded a few times and I'm still running with the original version.
TankBeef wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:02 pmto keep whining even after developers managed to address your "issue"
Not quite what happened here, though... and I was never whining.

More outright yelling.

The issue was apparently only addressed and fixed just this past week, so again... there's no rush.
OjitroC wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:16 pmSince what you describe as a 'glitch' actually fixed what the devs consider to be (for want of a better phrase) 'bad code' in 436, they have now had to revert to that 'bad code' (and do other changes in the code of ScriptedPawn) SOLELY to address the issue with the UTDM pawns that you raised and so it is discourteous not to install 469d and test out the UTDM pawns (and the rest of the patch) for yourself.
The "bad code" was not from 436, it's been with ut99 since it was first created because the UTDM-monsters originated with Unreal1.

I've got a lot on my plate, I will try the new patch when I get to it... although a download link would help!
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EvilGrins wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:39 am Heck, MonsterHunt has been patched & upgraded a few times and I'm still running with the original version.
And you too ask there something, and no go test it, after it solved?
EvilGrins wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:39 am The issue was apparently only addressed and fixed just this past week, so again... there's no rush.
Not at all. Even on github you can see: https://github.com/OldUnreal/UnrealTour ... ssues/1183
Reported - 1 February.
Active talk - 2 February.
Fixed - 30 April.

And it widely tested and talked in tester channel on discord.

OFC you not join any discord or participate any testing. Or even github talk. you just come here to random topics with unrelevant info.
EvilGrins wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:39 am I've got a lot on my plate, I will try the new patch when I get to it... although a download link would help!
As person who familiar with forum and as person who come to new topics with unrelevant comments, you must already know where search download link.
Since there:
1. be new topic about that,
2. link stay same as in previous time
3. there be enough ado about this.
4. Main page as usual contain few links to it.
5. Even some members use such link in signature, so it popup basically everywhere.
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Buggie wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:59 amyou must already know where search download link.
You think so, but when I went to this forum's thread about that patch...
https://www.oldunreal.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 1569587267
...that was the link in the 1st post, and it doesn't work anymore!
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this forum. ut99.org. There a plenty links. Even on this page. Even on this.
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EvilGrins wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:02 am
Buggie wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:59 amyou must already know where search download link.
You think so, but when I went to this forum's thread about that patch...
https://www.oldunreal.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 1569587267
...that was the link in the 1st post, and it doesn't work anymore!
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Now I am offended ...dude, not cool.


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I'll going to cut this discussion from the screenshot thread.
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Re: UTDM-monster and Patch 469 discussion

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You forget link in the header :loool: