MH-HauntedHalloween [Complete! Happy Halloween!]

[Kayako]

Hey all!

Spooky season has begun, I used to make at least one festive map a year, and I wanted to pick that habit back up! After making 2 Christmas maps, and one (loosely) Easter one I decided this time would be a Halloween themed level!

Map details
Name: MH-HauntedHalloween
Theme: A spooky forest, Graveyard, and mansion
Gametypes: MonsterHunt
Bot Support: Yes!
Player Count: Made for 1-7, monster spawns scale based on player numbers so, not sure when it gets too crazy!

Included files:
Maps:
MH-HauntedHalloween

Music
Vandenberg_Music_2k.umx
Watcher.umx

system:
Tree_PACK1.u
Spinner.u
CTPumpkin.u
Screen.u

Textures:
PumpkinPack.utx
RoeAnimated.utx
ScreenFonts.utx
ScriptedScreen.utx

Screenshots
The screenshots look way darker than it does ingame and no idea why





Known issues:
The fog doesn't play nice with the skybox, no idea how to fix that, I turned bFogzone to True in the skybox but that turned out to not be enough
Despite using the special warpzones from "MH-TheFifthVortexV31" the rotation doesn't update properly online, I am not sure if I set up something wrong here.
The decorative clocks don't update real-time online
Bots sometimes attack defenseless statues
One of the new 'monster' types still needs a proper randomization factors
Unreal Archive mirror
Mediafire mirror

[GEARvision]

Spooky season is about to roll around, I used to make at least one festive map a year, and I wanted tp ick that habit back up! After making 2 Christmas maps, and one (loosely) Easter one I decided this time would be a Halloween themed level!

I love that approach ^^ I have seen it before and it brings me nostalgia that you are doing it here (not many things do! I can count these with 1 hand... )

The fog doesn't play nice with the skybox, no idea how to fix that, I turned bFogzone to True in the skybox but that turned out to not be enough

The skybox and the foreground layer are rendered separately - That is, the skybox is stamped ontop of the image, if there was a way to bypass that and draw the fog portion of the foreground...
It is how Unreal draws, I dunno if it can be fixed with a renderer hack, Fog is achieved thru the depth onscreen, it should take account of that even with the skybox layer (ignore skybox), but chances exist that is not how it is (never sent to the graphics renderer) so it is a problem...

Despite using the special warpzones from "MH-TheFifthVortexV31" the rotation doesn't update properly online, I am not sure if I set up something wrong here.

Naturally, not easy way to do that... I think (I meant the Pawn's passing thru... Is it how it looks from the other side?)
Alright, I believe you have to create a subclass that has this rotation baked in, so that client does not have to "interpret" it out of replication (if there was any before) - So that will solve it

Bots sometimes attack defenseless statues

No! Poor statues!


I love the map's looks
Yet again I love the breathing space you grant to them, it is fresh just to boot them up!

[jmartin]

Nice looking map. Will you make a DM version for those who don't have MH?

Thanks.

If I remember correctly you can't see a fog zone from another zone. You have to be standing inside a fog zone in order to see the fog.

[GEARvision]

Nice looking map. Will you make a DM version for those who don't have MH?

Thanks.

I was thinking an ONP version myself... I grant the player with Krall followers who have "costumes" - Or a lightning staff do... I may borrow the Bolt Rifle's effects ^^ I keep finding excuses to hand the custom weapons to the monsters so I can experience them, without leaving the old school UT arsenal lulz
Then when they go down they stay legless, and you gotta revive them with a spell, then they come back up with a new skin, a zombie skin
So now they do not have a ranged attack - But whack people with this now depleted staff, and have more health now
But there's an advantage in keeping them alive before death, if the Krall is in a killing spree, it can cast spells, like a shield spell on the player, giving him 50 Shield points
And now this is turning into Deus Ex with the augmentations and stuffz, I stop here xd

[Kayako]

I dunno if it can be fixed with a renderer hack, Fog is achieved thru the depth onscreen, it should take account of that even with the skybox layer (ignore skybox), but chances exist that is not how it is (never sent to the graphics renderer) so it is a problem...

I fear it's just an engine limitation, I mean it doesn't look HORRIBLE with how it is, just not the way I would have hoped it was

Naturally, not easy way to do that... I think (I meant the Pawn's passing thru... Is it how it looks from the other side?)
Alright, I believe you have to create a subclass that has this rotation baked in, so that client does not have to "interpret" it out of replication (if there was any before) - So that will solve it

It looks fine online but yeah if you walk through it feels jittery, not sure how to 'bake in' the rotation! I am really bad with code.

I love the map's looks
Yet again I love the breathing space you grant to them, it is fresh just to boot them up!

Thank you! I do try! I hope I can improve it further!

Nice looking map. Will you make a DM version for those who don't have MH?

Thanks.

If I remember correctly you can't see a fog zone from another zone. You have to be standing inside a fog zone in order to see the fog.

I fear that the layout doesn't lend itself to deathmatch gameplay, not enough inter-connectivity, rather linear, I could see a world in which I use the manor alone (And maybe the backyard) as a base for a DM map but I'll have to see!

I was thinking an ONP version myself... I grant the player with Krall followers who have "costumes" - Or a lightning staff do... I may borrow the Bolt Rifle's effects ^^ I keep finding excuses to hand the custom weapons to the monsters so I can experience them, without leaving the old school UT arsenal lulz
Then when they go down they stay legless, and you gotta revive them with a spell, then they come back up with a new skin, a zombie skin
So now they do not have a ranged attack - But whack people with this now depleted staff, and have more health now
But there's an advantage in keeping them alive before death, if the Krall is in a killing spree, it can cast spells, like a shield spell on the player, giving him 50 Shield points
And now this is turning into Deus Ex with the augmentations and stuffz, I stop here xd

Hold up, while it sounds amazing this is waaaaaay too ambitious for me, My coding skills are zero and I was hoping not to rely too much on help for this project!
I don't even think I can manage to make a bossfight that's a tenth as cool as the one in my head.

I updated the link, no longer broken!

[Kayako]

Sorry for the lack of updates, I didn't want to see like I'm talking to myself! Working on the final cutscene and will soon be going into a (Closed) beta phase, I still need help figuring out what is causing the weird effect with the warpzone and maybe someone checking if there's issues I am unaware of such as "accessed none" or invisible kill-holes. Almost there, not sure if I will be done before spooky Month starts though, sorry!

Once this is done I will be finishing Rise of Evil!

[darksonny]

great ambiance! sexy map!
pd. any chance to play this gem as another gametype (deathmatch)?

[Kayako]

I don't think it would be easy to make this map flow properly as a deathmatch map, if someone wants to take their time to convert the map when it's done they are free to do so! I can see certain parts working in deathmatch but definitely not all of them... Monsterhunt and Deathmatch have a very different flow, with most Monsterhunt maps being way more linear

[Kayako]

The (Mostly) final map is ready for download, feedback would be appreciated so I know what still might need to be done. Compared to the previous version it has new zones, new enemies, a new boss and new secrets!

One of the secrets may be harder to figure out than the other. One of the ghosts turns out to be rather well-adjusted if you just go and grab a pizza with them!

Grab it here! and let me know what you think!

[Barbie]

Sadly another file mismatch:
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2013 Jul 26 03:26   
Auto merged new post submitted 10 minutes later

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[/color]Log: Autoplay.BioAmmo4 fell out of the world while falling at (X=-15439.000000,Y=-19544.000000,Z=-416.603485)!
Log: Autoplay.BioAmmo5 fell out of the world while falling at (X=-15400.000000,Y=-19437.000000,Z=-416.603485)!
Log: Autoplay.ShockCore9 fell out of the world while falling at (X=-5837.000000,Y=2235.000000,Z=-1168.307495)!
Log: Autoplay.ShockCore10 fell out of the world while falling at (X=-5836.000000,Y=2313.000000,Z=-1168.307495)!
Log: Autoplay.ShockCore11 fell out of the world while falling at (X=-15800.000000,Y=-19640.000000,Z=-416.307587)!

[Kayako]

Sadly another file mismatch:

I didn't know they made a different version of screen, or if some third party did (Bad practice if that's the case), I will replacing it and see if nothing breaks,
Will also be moving those inventoryspots! Odd though, this doesn't happen on my end, I guess it happens if a mod replaces the ammo?

[Barbie]

I guess it happens if a mod replaces the ammo?

No mod running; the later UT patches have a different collision detection - or maybe there is a bad spot in map.

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Looks like it has to do with Class'MyLevel.UnlockInventory' - why not using just a combination of one time Trigger at weapon, ThingFactory+SpawnPoint for weapon and a MonsterEvent for message?   
Auto merged new post submitted 34 minutes later

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[/color]Map now online playable on test server.

[Kayako]

No mod running; the later UT patches have a different collision detection - or maybe there is a bad spot in map.

Thanks for pointing it out, it indeed happens in the latest versions, The turned the setting "Physics falling" to "Physics none" and it stopped happening! (My guess is that when in newer versions the ammo is updated at the start so it immediately starts falling as it should.Combined with the inventoryunlocker setting the physics to none you get this issue. It works now!

The newer version of screen also still does what it's supposed to do so I will be using that from here on out, thanks! Anything else I should be aware of?

[Barbie]

Anything else I should be aware of?

Try Buggie's MapChecker...

Found 105 problems

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MapChecker: Actors use bStatic = false when default is true. Need set bNoDelete to true or make subclass with default bStatic = false:
MapChecker: Knife39
MapChecker: HiddenDeco0
MapChecker: HiddenDeco2
MapChecker: PawnBuffer6
MapChecker: Movers which bTriggerOnceOnly must not use MoverEncroachType = ME_ReturnWhenEncroach or ME_StopWhenEncroach:
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MapChecker: Movers MoverEncroachType = ME_StopWhenEncroach or ME_ReturnWhenEncroach with empty ReturnGroup and default Tag can produce unexpected behavior:
MapChecker: Mover46 Tag = 'Mover' ME_ReturnWhenEncroach
MapChecker: Movers with bUseTriggered can be open by grab command from any player:
MapChecker: Mover46
MapChecker: Actor placed out of map:
MapChecker: Light302
MapChecker: Light362
MapChecker: Light410
MapChecker: Mover with AmbientSound and empty MoveAmbientSound stop produce sound after start move:
MapChecker: Mover53 AmbientSound = AmbAncient.Looping.Stower51
MapChecker: ExplosionChain with bOnlyTriggerable and (bCollideActors or bProjTarget):
MapChecker: MyExplosionChain1 bCollideActors = True bProjTarget = True
MapChecker: Weapon not linked to UnlockInventory:
MapChecker: ShockRifle0 Event = None
MapChecker: ShockRifle3 Event = None
MapChecker: minigun1 Event = None
MapChecker: UnlockInventory3 Botpack.UDamage not found on level
MapChecker: ZoneInfo with AmbientBrightness == 0:
MapChecker: LevelInfo0
MapChecker: ZoneInfo5
MapChecker: ZoneInfo7
MapChecker: SlimeZone0
MapChecker: ZoneInfo8
MapChecker: PressureZone0
MapChecker: Teleporter with bHidden = True and bAlwaysRelevant = False:
MapChecker: Teleporter0
MapChecker: Teleporter5
MapChecker: Teleporter10
MapChecker: Teleporter11
MapChecker: Teleporter13
MapChecker: RacistTeleporter2
MapChecker: Trigger for Damage or Kill Instigator which work only for players:
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MapChecker: PathNode too close:
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MapChecker: Movers with scale:
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MapChecker: MonsterEnd0
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MapChecker: Inventory in ground
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MapChecker: HiddenDeco2
MapChecker: Triggers with default Tag possible not used:
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[Kayako]

Try Buggie's MapChecker

thanks! I am using the mapchecker! It helped me a lot with aligning some of the brushes and stuff (It used to be like 400 brushes off-grid! Some of them simply couldn't be aligned...) Some other things are intentional things like:
"MonsterEnd bHidden is false" I hate how monster ends look. They break immersion, If a mod wants to turn them visible they can but my maps will never come with it on.
"Zoneinfo zonelight is 0" I need them to be 0 else it will show the special-lit effects when they are supposed to be invisible.
A mover is set to bUseTriggered this one is for a secret that I purposefully require people to use grab for, if someone turns grab off, that's fine, they can still play the map, just not access this secret.
Some lights out of bounds I use for the sound only since the "TriggeredAmbientsound" doesn't do what I want, and the lights do.

The other stuff I fixed and will update after making sure nothing messed up!