Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

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Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

Post by PrinceOfFunky » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:30 pm

So, I was wondering if you ever noticed UT99 style drew inspiration from Matrix(the movie) style, since I looked up on Google but it looks like no one ever talked about it...
For example, the dark urban intro and some maps.
Some tributes and inspirated stuff can be:
- DM-Morpheus wich is a clear tribute to Morpheus from Matrix.
- XAN who is an AI that is very strong against humans and thinks of them as obsolete(even if he's playing a human game lol...);
- The Matrix skin for the cyborg model;
- The translocator lets you teleport just like phones in Matrix.
- The door decoration which could be this door right here(Wireframe here);
- The cryopod, which could be these cryopods here;
- The IntroShip decoration could have drew inspiration from the Matrix spaceships;
- To enable cheats you had to send the command "iamtheone", similar to the "chosen one", Neo, from Matrix;
- The robot clearly looks like these ones.

Some of the original soundtracks drew a lot of inspiration from Matrix, for example this one:

which drew inspiration from this one:

Do the comparsion from 0:13 on UT ost and 0:15 on Matrix ost.
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Re: Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

Post by Terraniux » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:55 pm

Hehe that's quite a discovery! I never noticed that! Thank you for sharing.

but now.....

Whats been seen can not be unseen, but THAT MUSIC. GODOWN. what the actual f*ck.

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Re: Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

Post by papercoffee » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:27 pm

Matrix
Release date: March 31, 1999

UT
Releasedate: November 30, 1999

They are pretty close ...but I don't think so.
UT was longer in development than 8 month.
With a budget of $2 million and 350,000 lines of C++ and UnrealScript, Unreal Tournament took almost a year and a half to develop.
From Wikipedia.

Btw. The Robot in Matrix is from The Matrix Reloaded.
Release date May 7, 2003

Matrix is a mathematical term.
Morpheus is the God of dreams.
The Beam from Star Trek Enterprise is much older than the Transloc.
Regarding AI against humans ...did you ever read Asimov?

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Oh and Propellerheads are very well known for their Break-Beat influence.

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Re: Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

Post by nogardilaref » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:54 pm

I think this is one of those classic cases where there are one or two references to "something", and then all of the sudden people's brains pick up all the things and force associations between them to establish that the object in cause was heavily influenced by that "something".

Like it was pointed up above, the game was probably already getting somewhat polished and added content to when the movie came out.
Having that said however, it's clear that it certainly has some references to that movie, specially considering that during development there are plenty of features, easter eggs and content added up to a few weeks before the release, sometimes just days, "iamtheone" being perhaps the most obvious one in this case, and the rest not so much.

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Re: Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

Post by Carbon » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:34 pm

Humans look for patterns in everything...it's the way our brains work and it as often betrays us as it does assist. The correlation between the Matrix film and the game is interesting, but probably not quite as powerful as believed.

Although 8 months isn't enough time to build the game around the movie in any significant way, I don't doubt that it had an effect. A lot can happen in 8 months of game development and to think that some maps, music and even player avatars might be influenced isn't a stretch.

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Re: Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

Post by Hellkeeper » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:36 pm

The robot, cryopod and introship meshes are from Unreal, released in 1998, so there's probably 0 link between them and the matrix movie.
All the other elements are seemingly ultra-common science-fiction themes which had been ubiquitous for decades before Matrix was released.
Apart from the Morpheus name.
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Re: Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

Post by ANUBITEK » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:32 pm

Rofl, Deus Ex had more in common with The Matrix than UT did. There is literally a Matrix text rain texture in the game as an easter egg. You should play that game if you haven't, buggy as hell and frankly aged like milk in a closet, but it is a fun romp for the first 4-5 hours.
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Re: Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

Post by sektor2111 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:02 am

I think Matrix got inspiration from UT - as a personal opinion. Anyway they are similar at some point: Both of them are original from planet Earth - if I'm not mistaking...

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Re: Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

Post by Hellkeeper » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:05 pm

sektor2111 wrote:I think Matrix got inspiration from UT - as a personal opinion. Anyway they are similar at some point: Both of them are original from planet Earth - if I'm not mistaking...
And both were made by people with two arms. Now the link is obvious.
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Re: Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

Post by Carbon » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:33 pm

LannFyre wrote: You should play that game if you haven't, buggy as hell and frankly aged like milk in a closet, but it is a fun romp for the first 4-5 hours.


http://www.moddb.com/mods/gmdx/download ... 90-release

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Re: Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

Post by nogardilaref » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:23 pm

Hellkeeper wrote:
sektor2111 wrote:I think Matrix got inspiration from UT - as a personal opinion. Anyway they are similar at some point: Both of them are original from planet Earth - if I'm not mistaking...
And both were made by people with two arms. Now the link is obvious.
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Re: Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

Post by rjmno1 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:02 pm

Well i can remember a mod with matrix moves wich is very old, included matrix weapons also.
Was online in 1999 in the demo version of ut 99 version 348. :agree1:
The mod was called matrix moves.
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Re: Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

Post by Terraniux » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:08 pm

rjmno1 wrote:Well i can remember a mod with matrix moves wich is very old, included matrix weapons also.
Was online in 1999 in the demo version of ut 99 version 348. :agree1:
The mod was called matrix moves.
Is it still available? 0__0 ?

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Re: Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

Post by Aldebaran » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:29 pm

In my serverbrowser there exists a server with matrix moves and other matrix elements ("Stig's Matrix Redirected"). It makes fun to play there.

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Re: Did you ever noticed UT99 drew inspiration from Matrix?

Post by OjitroC » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:41 pm

Terraniux wrote: Is it still available? 0__0 ?.
The latest version is MatrixMovesBeta4 - all the moves, including wall climbing and walking, but no weapons - http://www.ut-files.com/index.php?dir=M ... 4_UMOD.zip

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