Cry from within ( rant about Macs)

[--=PsyXandeR=--]

Have been just offered by my friend to switch from PCs to Macintosh. He was trying to convince me that it basically awesome and Windows sucks compared to their awesome OSX. Excuse me? I told him to GTFO.

- Macs are overpriced. 1000 dollars for the piece of hardware that doesn't do crap? I will pass, thank you.

- " You see, Macs use this awesome brand new operating system..." Brand-new? Seriously? I thought that OXS was Unix-like operating system and which was around for like decades now. I usually like Unix-based things ( I have Win7 / Linux Mint /Free BSD all triplebooted) for functionality and possibilies they provide. For example, for Ubuntu you can download crapload of open source software that WILL work without any issues at all. And best of all, Linux distributions are free. So, hang on a sec, if OSX is Unix-based operating system, why would I bother spending 1000 bucks on something that I could potentially get for free?

- Gaming. Self-explanatory - Macs aren't capable of supporting some serious gaming. Even though Steam is slowly getting itself compatible with OSX, I doubt it is going to go that far. Not all the games sold on Steam support opengl; many of those games are just DirectX based and doubt anyone would bother recompiling everything for another OS.

- Stubborn / Retarded users. No seriously. The guy has been going on for 30 mins on how great Mac is. I tried convincing him otherwise and that was like the worst waste of time ever. Having never used Windows based computer, he claimed that Windows is all crap because of BSODs , numerous crashes and what not. Wait what? How often has Windows crashed on you to an extent that you had to reinstall it? Got to admit, happened only once, few days ago, when I tried hacking Win7's shell interface. But come on, if you don't do anything of that sort of things, Windows will serve you for ages. From this I can conclude that Mac users just cannot think straight and don't know what must not do. Modifying files in System32 folder isn't that wise, you know?

- So called user friendly interface. LOL wut? Having experience in majority of existing operating systems ( let's start with the fact that my first main operating system was Win95), I am still having trouble finding out what does what in OSX. "Oh look, you just have to drag and drop files in order to copy them". Really? I'm good with CTRL C CTRL V if you ask me. There's nothing more intuitive than shortcuts.

- Open sourceness? Excuse me? Wait, why do I have to buy that application for Mac again if I can find free alternative on Windows or any other Linux distribution? What about iTunes locking up all my mp3s that I have paid for? Why can't I just go and upload those on my cellphone rather than iPod? Limiting consumers to predefined choices isn't that good, is it?

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Lastly... This is my current desktop. Isn't that user friendly, you brainless OSX fanbois?

[Hook]

Ha ha ha - I LOVE it!
I have had BOTH - PCs and Macs.
I am fine with PCs from now on!
Macs aren't better - they are just "Different"

[rohitggarg]

Must say that if you are a UT fanatic or a software developer... you don't want Mac.. If you are a complete noob to your keyboard and filesystem and obviously got a huge..no ... enormous pocket, you can't survive without a mac

[Feralidragon]

From the 7 teachers I have on this moment:
- The best one only uses Microsoft software and their OSs (it's my "Project Management teacher", one of those that can do pretty much everything in this field: programming, manage a big project for a company, do marketing studies, etc), although he doesn't mind to use Linux and such for servers, and he claims that Vista was the Beta version of Windows 7 from the very beggining (which I personally agree when explained his logic).
- The worse one (teaches JavaScript, PHP, Ajax between other web languages), explains everything very fast, and even sometimes he doesn't know if what he's talking about is accurate, besides we (class) do always bets in how late he will come to start the class (from 5 to 30min) or even if he doesn't come at all ROFL , does everything on a Mac and from the Mac. If he's good at programming, I think so, if he's a good teacher, not quite lol

I know we can't judge OSs by the people who use them, but coincidence or not, in my case the best teacher is a Windows supportive and my worse is the only who owns a Mac.

But since I never used a Mac in my life, I can't judge it by myself lol

[Myth]

It's a got it's good points and bad points, like everything else.

Mac is unix based. That's not a bad thing at al. Unix had multiple secure accounts, multitasking and internets before Windoze could fart up a BSOD. In short you don't get viruses. There are no shitty security holes like windoze. Macs have their own hardware. You never have to worry about drivers and shit. It always works. You don't have to reinstall the OS every year because it decides to not to work anymore.

I'd say it's perfect for people who hand around the internet, edit photos, write documents and make presentations.

What you don't get is that 3rd party support as windoze. You don't have as many programs. Gaming suffers a lot. And yeah...

BTW your windows we all keep hugging is still based on MS-DOS (and Windoze NT which is in fact a UNIX copy-pasta by M$ to make more $$$)
So yeah. The differences were quite the same even back then. Only DirectX managed to beat MS-DOS's awesome hardcore gaming experience.

[papercoffee]

I make it simple ...

Linux is for people who want to know why anything works...
Mac is for people who don't want to know why anything works...
Windows is for people who don't want to know why nothing works...

I use Windows for Gaming and Linux for internet and stuff.

[Lee_Stricklin]

Apple stopped being cool after Commodore went out of business and even then Commodore was kicking their asses (you may have heard of a little toy called the Amiga). Also OSX is a piece of shit. Period. It's built off of a Unix (which is freely available) but has A LOT (More than Windows! No joke.) of vulnerabilities thanks to just about every single open-source component of it being outdated. Also let's not get into price-to-performance ratio... SCREW IT, TOO LATE! lol I can build a gaming rig (gaming-grade peripherals and surround sound included) running either Linux or Windows for literally half the price or less than buying a Mac with similar or even inferior specs. Not to mention you can't run anything on a Mac because not only is nothing written for it, but it lacks tools (me and other Linux users have WINE) that would otherwise enable it to run stuff from other platforms. I should also note that most of the guys who have coded Nexuiz and Xonotic have had a HARD TIME getting the Dark Places engine to work properly on Macs. Macs are basically the BOSE (Buy Other Sound Equipment) of the computing industry. Also about that Steam on OSX thing, the guys who port Steam will probably port a few games with WINE while requiring the developers that distribute games on that service to either make them WINE or OpenGL compatible. Also, I heard of Steam hitting Linux far earlier than I heard of it hitting Mac and believe it or not, the original Left 4 Dead disc had some Linux libraries on it.

I make it simple ...

Linux is for people who want to know why anything works...
Mac is for people who don't want to know why anything works...
Windows is for people who don't want to know why nothing works...

I use Windows for Gaming and Linux for internet and stuff.

Actually Linux is for people who want to use it and it's freely available. Once you set one up, it's actually a far easier computing experience than Windows and it's problems. The trick is learning how to toy around with a distro you like, but once you do that you won't want to go back to Windows.

[--=PsyXandeR=--]

Look, we all agree that Windows while being the most popular operating system has its faults. Most of the time, may I add, it is user's fault that he screws his OS over. If he doesn't try to hack system files, if he is not trying to edit registry manually, he is more likely going to be all good. It, however, has functionality that OsX has never and will never probably have; namely it is open source software and gaming.

What I really hate about Apple is that they take absolutely free and open source technology and they make money out of it. Why would I even bother paying huge sum of money if there are free and by all margins better than this ripoff. Unless its price starts paying off ( when they come to realize that open source and proper gaming are inevitable ), I refuse to get this platform just for typing and listening to music that I CANNOT upload on any other device other than iFuckingPod. This just annoys the crap out of me.

[rohitggarg]

I came to know another thing in one of the lectures at our colleges that MS has screwed Apple big time .. Well the lecturer told me that MS psycho (Bill gates) stole the display technology from Apple and launched his own product MS Win 3.1 before Apples could have gone ripe .... At that time i thought that apple has suffered a lot and grew sympathy for it.

Now i realize that if MS hadn't done that, it would have been really difficult world out there for people. As we know that there are so many hardware and software choices and developer communities for MS, it makes your life a lot more easier.

[awergh]

I always like reading rants about Macs maybe cause I'm slightly bias but thats not a good reason not to read them.

There are no shitty security holes like windoze.

There are security holes in all software just look up the security holes in the linux kernel sometime.

You don't have to reinstall the OS every year because it decides to not to work anymore.

?What did you break? I'm pretty sure I've had to reinstall linux because I broke it as well

BTW your windows we all keep hugging is still based on MS-DOS (and Windoze NT which is in fact a UNIX copy-pasta by M$ to make more $$$)

Windows has nothing to do with MS-DOS anymore there isn't even compatibility with those applications in Windows x64. Windows NT3.1 came out in 1993, its just that the home users had Windows 9x instead of Windows NT. Windows 9x had much better compatibility with MS-DOS applications then NT does.

When XP came out after ME everyone was moved to NT
2000 = NT5, XP = NT5.1, 2003 = NT5.2, Vista/2008 = NT6, 7/2008R2 = NT6.1

[Phorce]

Yeah, what is it about Mac users ? I always get the feeling that they are looking down on everyone else and that they need taking on one of those drinking weekends where you wakeup nekked on a beach .

What is this "reinstall windows" thing ? Don't know who started that one. If a start menu entry is out of place then it's "reinstall". Wha ? These days it's well understood how to handle Windows.

[papercoffee]

You don't have to reinstall the OS every year because it decides to not to work anymore.

?What did you break? I'm pretty sure I've had to reinstall linux because I broke it as well

I don't know what he broke... but Linux is much harder to break.
In Windows is the first User who install the operating system, the Admin ...most PC/notebooks comes with pre-installed Win and the User is again automatically Admin. The administrative rights are always on and any program on your PC can use'em. That's why it is easy to break in and mess the system up as an intruder or even better as an "user". The Admin is God on your PC and nothing can stop him.

In Linux as user you are a user ...for Admin work (install software or screw the system) you have to log in with your Admin PW.
The system core is secured with another Admin-PW. After the installation work (or other things) you are back as user.

So you can break Linux as well ...but you have to do it on purpose.

The only solution for Windows is ...after setup make a new user account with restricted rights.
As user you are now only able to use programs and read things ...for installations you have to execute the setup as admin with PW request.
But no one I know did something like this.

[awergh]

I know at least one person who does exactly that and domain environments are exactly like that although thats more locking down normal users so they cant do anything they shouldn't.

I wouldn't say admin on Windows is GOD it isn't actually the highest user the highest user is System. You cant access HKLM\SECURITY under admin

You can break linux by accident its not irreversible but if you don't know much and you've broken xorg trying to get a video driver your in for some trouble, in one case I almost reinstalled linux on a VM because I'd been trying to get something to work and DNS broke somehow took ages to fix I reinstalled later for a different reason though.

Windows doesnt let you do things like sorting your system files by extensions in folders like it did once upon a time

[Phorce]

Linux is a very different mindset. That's why some people get so religious and worked up about it. I can remember installing my first Linux in the late 90's. It was literally a mindblowing experience coming from the Matrix world of Windows 95 and Microsoft mind control (literally). They lock you into a desktop mentality box so that you are brainwashed into using expensive commercial solutions. Windows is simply a clever advert, nothing more. Ubuntu is currently trying to turn Linux into the same thing by trapping users in Gnome and keeping them away from the real freedom and liberation of Linux. I guess Macs already achieved this goal ... (Mac users blow up Phorce )

[papercoffee]

I use linux Mint ...but like ubuntu it is much too heavy. I go back to sidux.
Dont get me wrong Mint is a beauty and easy to handle... But is derivative from ubuntu.