You guys have it easy, geez

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Learn a song and play guitar ?

Just listen on youtube and "record"
then burn to a CD
Then have a cd player with an A B function.

We had to buy the album so you could move the needle back a trillion times over. (and ruin the grooves for that song) I did that learning, Rush, 2112. felt sorry for that record afterwards, LoLz

Plus all these websites that other people already learned the song and put up all the chords, or notes.

Pretty cool I did that and now the new way, but it still don't make you play the instrument-song.
I think I have a CD player with A B function around here someplace.

[wallabra]

I enjoy the progress of technology! \o/

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Wait for the moment where ChatGPT can interpret music / your records and points out where you can improve and how you can improve, inclusive generating its own melodies or rythms.
I, too, enjoy the progress of technology.

[Hellkeeper]

I like how you think a CD player is insane cool advanced tech when, in reality, CD players are so oldschool I'm surrounded by people who no longer have any CD player (let alone CD drive). Burning a CD is so vintage you can make it a personality trait around hipsters.
Not to mention burning CDq with mp3s recorded or downloaded from God knows where is the epitomy of the mid 2000s. It reminds me of my teenage years.

[papercoffee]

Wait for the moment where ChatGPT can interpret music / your records and points out where you can improve and how you can improve, inclusive generating its own melodies or rythms.
I, too, enjoy the progress of technology.

I'm not ...at least not the progress it has right now, where it's contra creator and pro CEOs.

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Going to see if I can fix this Dennon rack mount pro CD player that does have A B function and pitch. I hope I can get it working because the pitch function will also be worth it a lot

Oh but wait, the new tech the cheap little switch got mashed in for the eject button, small push switch has a clicker, like a clicker toy, like a piece of round thin metal domed disc that snaps in and snaps out about 3/16 diameter, no springs.

Oh but wait, the new tech and this player, they made the eject plastic button the only one on it that is different than all the other ones and the PLASTIC broke and caused the switch to break. So now I am forced to un-solder another small switch and put the other one in place for a function I won't use. As opposed to being forced to order a whole new front panel PC board that would cost a fortune and probably not made anymore, it's a 2014.

New tech now or then is made to throw away or spend mega bucks, all because they want to cram stuff in and be CHEAP !!!!
After all that, I will still have to use a small poker to use the eject button, or rig something.

I do see vinyl records coming back in popularity now, because digital SUCKS.

It Works !!!!!

AND my CHEAP ass guitar, it's Ashthorpe . forgot the E, but this damn thing is just so awesome, can't believe it myself, I have no words. ADD, I just mentioned to my niece about finding some junk or even toy guitar or broken and try to fix,to have some around the house. Last year they got me this for my birthday. Put new different thinner strings on it. I would NOT even waist my breath on this, or bragging, it's just the damn thing sounds so good once it's tuned, BOOM, you won't believe it either.
I would try GHS boomers bronze phosphor Thins 11's
I am using ultra light Ernie Ball Cobalt electric guitar stings now, because the ones that come with it are way to LOUD and stiff and have not played for 30 years. Even then, still to thick.

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"If it works, it isnt stupid"
Vinyl is doing pretty good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_revival

Edit: In terms of repairability, we sadly dont have it so easy anymore. Things are getting more complicated and are more and more designed in a way that repairing is not an option.

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Last note.

The not good switch still works but not any definite click, I pushed a pen in the center of that small disc , a little bit to be more domed.
Now I need a user manual for some things I can't button my way through. It only plays one song and stops, these were used at a radio station. So I need a manual, I read it also burns directly to a thumb drive, it does a lot more than I would have thought,,,,pro gear.
The other stereo behind has an 8 Track tape player, all works quite well, from my auto repair guy, has record player , al cheapo and old, but useful. (and some money for repair)

[Hellkeeper]

Funny, I recently repaired my old tuner by changing a switch just like the ones you show and a capacitor which had lost the ability to store enough power to keep channels in memory when the machine was switched off. I doubt it'd be similarily easy to find service manuals and part lists for new equipment.

[Red_Fist]

Rock on people !!! go buy a cheap acoustic, enough to play or learn is all you need.

I have been wanting to add HOW to learn to play a guitar.
All you do is get some guitar, DO NOT TRY TO PLAY SOME SONG.
There is 8 "major" chords, only play the open string, first fret, folk chords, with electric or acoustic, just a guitar.
All you do is play an A chord then B then C then D,E,F,G.
Struggle to place fingers and have one chord sound perfect, no matter how long it takes. (play the chord first perfectly)
TAKE HAND OFF NECK AWAY, then repeat that same thing until you can slap your hand on the neck and play that chord instantly.
Give yourself 6 weeks, feeling pretty good about it, THEN learn some song, simple stuff. BOOM, be the next Jeff Beck.
Other people will be surprised because just doing that will have you playing easy songs that people know, like 3 or 4 chords max, be a hit of the party, yeehaaaw. (and some beers, lolzz)

All of these I need to go over the way things are being recorded, T's me off between the mic and the record levels, etc etc.

My Al cheapo guitar, just practice, trying to make a basic track to practice too, I missed a bar on the last section.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqWrQ-zk3g-RgkB3jFY ... U?e=VCcf1n

I put this in here, I only played this for open chord practice, it is not what I would play, but it is what it is..
It's more for hearing the cheap guitar that ROCKS !. (and could be even better)

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqWrQ-zk3g-RgkMPwsy ... 5?e=eJM9la


I want to point out, I am back to thicker Ernie Ball COBALT electric guitar strings. The GHS "thins" are good but still to bright and "acoustic" sounding, not enough balls.
The other thing that is new and I never knew before, are the PEGS that push down the strings, not the tuning pegs, matters a lot !!!
You will see these plastic, wood, and metal pegs online. The plastic pegs seems to make an acoustic guitar sound like a box, the wood ,like a cardboard box a lot MORE. The harder wooden pegs sound WAY different than my original pegs, and this is all new to me.
So I hear these "liquid metal" pegs they sound too much blurred too much like a metal guitar.
So my theory is to match the wood resonance of the guitar that will transfer the vibrations at the same speed as the wood vs pegs. Same for a rebuilt "Bone" bridge, seems to sound dull and too articulate, just quiet and crappy too clean, By changing the pegs to a proper density matched to the wood of the front of the guitar is what seems right. Not so good like metal or super hard wood compared to the type of wood or the way it's built. I bought TUSQ, and got rid of the stock plastic ones and made of some synthetic material, that is what you hear on this recording.
The first recording are the old pegs and the GHS thins, strings.

More like it, made up practice stuff. BARR CHORDS !!

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqWrQ-zk3g-Rgj8V-Pz ... 1?e=QqOr1l


Can't help it, it's all just fun and make this stuff up as I go., yeehaw

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqWrQ-zk3g-RgkGliK2 ... n?e=Nq1gVP

So here is a thing, ,,,same old me blues practice, but you are supposed to hear the pick,,,just fun at home for me. still working on it. not a new thing I call it Smear pick, type style. very smeary. lolzz

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqWrQ-zk3g-Rgj0Hkmv ... s?e=yQ7cLX

I can tell you the way it sounds IS those Ernie Ball Cobalt electric guitar strings on this acoustic, no effects here at all, not plugged into anything, just a cheap old PC microphone.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqWrQ-zk3g-Rgj5LTYA ... B?e=xg5nc0

Another quick test-fun.

All this stuff, if you play an acoustic for a while first, THEN switch to an electric guitar you will be awesome, by default.
Is why you need a cheap guitar.

Also IF you ever did get an electric guitar , DON'T friggen get any pedals or effects for at least a years worth of learning and playing clean and practice every day. If you do that, you will be even more awesome, by default.

Supposed to Strumbass.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqWrQ-zk3g-Rgjxob0A ... 6?e=tg2cDz

rock on

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A DEMONSTRATION. ONLY WHILE ONLY CONSIDERING THE "GUITAR" , at hand.
So here is the deal, and it's pretty hard to play CHORDS on an acoustic guitar WAY higher than the neck than you are supposed to, it has a cut-away neck to be able to play close to the guitar body.

I NEVER even thought about it (unlike an electric guitar) because it's hard to do and they are never in-tune playing this high up on the neck.
So what I did was to make a DEMONSTRATION file for this Ashthorpe C-85 Al-cheapo electric acoustic guitar, that I love (based on experience, logic, and ,,Guitar FUN).

NOW, you go buy-spend mega bucks on a guitar, right ?

To get this on a $99.00 guitar is WAAAAAY better than my old "better" electric, LoL

JUST LISTEN to the tuning from playing the same chords up high, mid, and low on the neck They all are in-tune.
Which is a benchmark for ALL guitars.

Playing to TRY and play those high chords on ANY electric or acoustic is insane, because the frets are so narrow way up on the neck, almost impossible or not worth trying, lol.
But be happy for the "{Demo)" it was really hard to squish my fingers like that . yeeehhaw. (it really is, )

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I am not promoting that brand guitar either, either it works or not, I don't work for them either.